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What the fck would you know about that griffo?
All my clothes come from a new range, Kettle and Pot.
Roughly 5 hours it took for people to start ignoring the request for “sensible” questions, I see.
And yet I am accused of ruining the board ;)
seem to remember Jewell tinkering a bit in his first season here in 2001-2002 and look we’re he took the club and yes he got slaughtered at the time.
Uwe is sorting out a mess and with the fans on his side surely is a good thing and one that will give in the valuable time to sort the team out.I don’t think we should judge him critically just yet and look at how he has turned the form round since he joined!
He will get it right in my view but like any club in transition Lethe results will be mixed until he builds his own team and stamps his style and authority on it.
A bit too early to criticise just yet!That is a bit of an exaggeration.
I have divided the championship up into two groups :-
Group One
The teams pushing for, and expected to achieve a top half finish, the league leaders and playoff spots, I have also included Blackpool** in this group who were riding high and getting results when we played them.Group Two
The teams that are looking to finish mid table at best, avoid the drop and the relegation certainties.I then looked at when we played these teams and the results under both Coyle and Rosler, I think it makes interesting reading.
Under Coyle we played
Group one
Middlesbrough
Nottingham Forest
Leicester City
Ipswich Town
Watford
QPR
Blackburn Rovers
Blackpool **
Brighton
Derby CountyGroup two
Barnsley
Bournemouth
Doncaster
Charlton
Yeovil
Huddersfield TownThat is the 16 league games before Coyle was sacked, 62.5% of those games were against the ‘better sides and promotion/playoff contenders'(group 1), 37.5% against the lesser sides(group 2).
The total points return in that period was 22 out of a possible 48 which equates to 45.8% gained.Under Rosler we have played
Group one
Bolton Wanderers
Birmingham City
Bournemouth
Doncaster Rovers
Charlton Athletic
Huddersfield TownGroup two
Reading
Burnley
Derby County
MiddlesbroughPost Rosler we have played 10 league games 40% against the better teams (group 1) and 60% against the lesser (group 2) teams.
The total points return during this period is 18 out of a possible 30 which equates to a return of 60%.
Summary
Owen Coyle
Out of the 16 games played when he was boss we played 62.5% against the ‘group 1 better teams’ and we gained 22 points out of 48 available(48.5%), we also played 6 cup games(5 European) which is acknowledged as causing better teams than us problems with league form.
Uwe Rosler
Rosler’s points return on paper looks superior, 18 out of a possible 30(60%)but those points have been taken against 60% of the worst teams in the league or put another way he has only achieved 40% of our points against the ‘group 1 better teams’. In that time he also only had one European game and 3 FA cup games.I have not included the two losses against Leeds and Milwall which took place in between managers, but if these were added to Coyles figures would lower is points return to about 41%, but still against 62.5% of the group one teams.
In my opinion Rosler has not improved things, or certainly nothing like some, including you, are suggesting.[/quote]
Blimey, is your tele on the blink!!
Hard to argue with such well researched lies, damn lies and statistics but things to add in Rosler’s defence are that a) he didn’t choose most of the players, b) he didn’t get a pre-season with them and had to hit the ground running, mid-season, with the cards he had been dealt and c) he has had a job on his hand turning round the squad’s confidence.
Also, whilst I broadly accept your subjective groupings of the teams in the league, it is also widely accepted that “anyone can beat anyone” in this division and, even if that isn’t 100% true, form certainly fluctuates which makes comparisons difficult throughout the course of the season. Therefore, as those in the know always claim that football is a results business, I would suggest that an improvement in points earned per game from 45% to 60% represents a significant turnaround in fortune.
Rosler for me – if only for his dress sense! ;)
Michael Mcintyre, on what friggin planet is this screeching no-mark funny? Has to be the most annoying get ever.
Don’t mind him, either.[/quote]
Now that really suprises me griff, I just do not get his wit in anway shape or form and cannot see how anyone with intelligence does. Having said that I do admit to finding most of todays comedians as funny as a strangulated hernia. I suppose I shouldn’t compare them with the comedy geniuses I grew up watching i.e Ronnie Barker Tommy Cooper and the like.[/quote]
Never said he was a comedy genius. I quite like the observational side of his comedy. Some of his routines hit home. A bit like Peter Kay – not the cleverest comedian, but good at what he does – in my opinion ;)
I have never really understood the use of the word ‘Marmite’ to suggest a like or dislike of something or someone? Why not say ‘Olives’ or ‘Avocados’?
I think it’s because Marmite isn’t everyone’s cup of tea ;)[/quote]
Neither are olives or avocados ! What about mustard, now that aint to everyones liking is it ! Or Branston pickle, reggae reggae sauce etc etc etc etc ![/quote]
Whoosh!
Five reasons for standing:
1. Less chance of the cold, hard seats inducing piles2. Someone will have temporary employment removing all those plastic seats (possible special needs/ex-criminal reintroduction into society / Marlon King?)
3. The club will earn enough in recycled plastic to settle Grant Holt’s tab at Sharpy’s
4. If you look like Justin Bieber/member of One Direction and watch anything featuring Danny Dyer, you can congregate with your own kind and ‘intimidate’ the opposition fans without fear of reproach from stewards
5. Reduced risk of sitting on one’s own testicle (it hasn’t happened yet, but it’s only a matter of time – especially in warmer weather)
Five reasons for seating:
1. The band called the ‘The Empty Seats’ will have to seriously rethink their name2. Standing behind me must be like standing behind the Honey Monster, but with a much bigger head
3. I hate standing. I even sit when p1ssing if I can get away with it these days
4. If I stood, I wouldn’t be able to moan about having to stand at least twice per half to allow the two weak-bladdered morons on my row to go to the bog/bar/leave early, thus giving me nothing to talk about to the woman I sit next to
5. I can balance a pie between my knees and have full use of both hands to eat it
That’s the next two weeks 54F sorted then, thanks!
I have never really understood the use of the word ‘Marmite’ to suggest a like or dislike of something or someone? Why not say ‘Olives’ or ‘Avocados’?I think it’s because Marmite isn’t everyone’s cup of tea ;)
It will be a fair few. You were always witty and humorous even on the old CL which was fine but i am sure many will agree, Over the past 2 years or so it has become too malicious. It all stemmed from when there was a pro/anti Martinez divide. We know you rated him, Probably because he is a nice chap and you met him quite a few times and wouldn’t hear a bad word against him or his ethics. I think that is why you started getting so defensive and aggressive. Thats the last i will say on it and bid you a farewell again for now.Well, as you’ve gone into retirement again you obviously won’t see this, but…
That was probably the case for me and LMB falling out, but all that has been put to bed. At least he can spot a wind-up when he sees one.
My aggression on this forum usually came from some other people’s inability to form a decent argument on many issues, not just the Martinez issue. On that particular subject though, many people could never manage anything more coherent than “Martinez is a useless Spanish prick” and that was the sort of post that would get my back up and end up with me launching from both barrels.
Anyway, those on this forum that do know me will tell you my real persona bears little resemblance to the one displayed on here. I met a bloke I used to play football with over ten years ago at a funeral last week and he said something along the lines of “you’re a piss-taking bastard on that Cockney Latic, they don’t know you very well, do they?”
Still, as I said yesterday, it’s probably time for a new leaf to be turned. I probably have gone too far with some of the stuff I have said. However, I still seriously doubt that anyone has left this site because of me, but if they have, then more fool them and it really says more about them than it does me, as someone else has already said.
On Tuesday, it’s away to Wednesday.Tow hard of hearing blokes are on a tube train in North Lonodn when it stops at a station.
“Is this Wembley”
“No pal, it’s Thursday”
“So am I, let’s get off and have a drink”
According to Rosler it was our best performance so far even tho we lost…. well I must have watched a different game today because we looked unbalanced and at times like a team that hasn’t played together.
defence was wobbly with crainey having an awful game. Boyce plays better at right back and so we were not at our best in defence. can’t believe Rosler took Gomez off and brought McCann on. It should have been the young lad mceachran or even McLean and drop crainey.
A word of advice to Rosler….Coyle tried to bullshit the fans when we played bad and we didn’t take kind to it…….However, we did like Mr Martinez’s positive spin bullshit ![/quote]
Really, did you? I didn’t! It was obvious from his very first post-match press conferences that all he was interested in doing was giving out messages that protected his players from any kind of public criticism. Perfectly reasonable strategy, but it did mean that, as a fan, there was little point listening to them.
It’s not that I disagree with the candidates nominated, but it reminds me of what an old work colleague (miserable git) once said:“Laughings (pronounced Lowfins)alreet for them folks that like it”!
This blog has certainly highlighted how opinions vary greatly on this topic.
As my granny (miserable git, too) used to say: “It’d be a dull owd world if we all thowt t’same road”
Agree with those totally.Philip Schofield is the big one for me. Can’t stand the guy. Not having that anyone is THAT perfect.
Harsh, maybe? Can take him or leave him, to be honest
Michael Mcintyre, on what friggin planet is this screeching no-mark funny? Has to be the most annoying get ever.Don’t mind him, either.
