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Does anybody bother with body language?! There’s no debate to be had he cheated take a look at his expression. He looked in to the box and the ref and made his move. If Yakubu had touched the ball Pedersen wouldn’t of gotten his head up to scan the surroundings or taken his time. You can see by his body language that he was chancing it.
Mistakes differ somewhat here Tyldesley in respect to Caldwell missing the ball and Pedersen cheating to win behind the ref’s back. I don’t blame the referee I think his shock at what just happened overwhelmed him somewhat and so he plodded on.
Unfortunately football these days uses clear cheating as talking points just to pass the time. It’s a freak show with nobody enforcing the law and punishing those who break it. For me Pedersen would be in HQ on Monday, fined and banned. Set a precedent right now and sift out the swearing at officials, diving everytime going 1-1 with goalkeepers, diving around players who have been booked, or any forms of cheating to gain an advantage. Get some morals, standards, ethics or whatever you wanna call it back.
Bugger I’m dreaming again!
Interesting to see Shearer deflecting the question from Lineker whether it was clearly cheating or not.
Football eh.
The same Paul Ince who plays the race card when he’s sacked?
Bad news that fella. Ability to manage isn’t colour orientated, its who can do the job best. It reminds me I flicked over the House of Lords channel thing and one guy was arguing with a PC nonse that its the best person for the job to work in the civil service, not balancing it out with different members of society in the name of “equality”, forgetting the ability of the individual.
Yes it has gone mad but have you noticed when you hear stuff like “complaints at England flag on taxi” you never get to see the complainant?! Same with these health & safety types. They go unnoticed and are unaccountable.
It would be unfair to judge the lad on his time in the Premiership playing “the English way”, so he struggled. Same way he is doing at Celtic playing their way.
Wigan play totally different and depend on the ability of the individual. He could do just fine here.
Crusat will play either side along with Moses adding a little spice to attacks throughout the game. Making players “static” to a certain position doesn’t improve them at all.
Did anyone see Barcelona/Porto last night? Barca played two midfielders at the heart of the defense and other players in unfamiliar positions. Another string to their bow by becoming utility players and not so damn static like we see over here.
the game is changing rapidly over here, wasn’t it Mourinho at Chelsea who introduced the new 4-5-1? Since then most sides are playing it like Wigan all influenced from Spanish/Portugese ways of playing.
Give Albert a chance, he’s a nippy little bugger and will do well. If it was up to me I’d buy one more winger as there’s no cover right now should Moses etc get injured.
I thought the “hate” thing was ended when the supporters of WAFC allowed Maurice Lindsay unchallenged a seat on the board, no protests no nothing.
That for me removed any “rugby hate” as he was the prime reason in the first place.
As for Gomez, its a good job he went to ground like that for the pen coz he would have sliced it wide anyway !!Are you advocating cheating?!
Good post, somebody who finally realises I’m attacking nobody and offering a valid point of view.
I can’t play a part in a sport which has been in fast decline for many years, I just feel better Yosser within myself for not going, a protest in which I’m the only one taking part. I know only a handful of likeminded folk but they have washed their hands altogether whereas I still want to see the problems addressed for the good of the game. They are not being tackled and the F.A are probably the most if not one of the most poor governing bodies in any sport. That goes for UEFA and FIFA for allowing such miniscule actions to take place on a weekly basis i.e diving, and what’s worse is allowing it to become an accepted part of the game where commentators are using the word “contact”. That was never used in years gone by! It’s an excuse for a players ease of falling over to cheat by saying there was contact, no matter how minimal. We all play the game and it’s no different in contact so why should they act all alien about it.
Yosser I don’t think the game has to go back to the way it was, it just needs going back to basics. These simple rules instill in players as footballers and people are human conditions in which we all possess, unfortunately football had it removed over the years. Morals, ethics & standards. It’s not a difficult thing to instill but it must start from the top by adopting the same respect to referee’s the rugby lot get and also firmer punishments for cheating to win. Suarez in the world cup for that handball wouldn have been banned until further notice if it was up to me. But hey all’s forgotten, he wears Liverpool Red now, a Messiah to any Liverpool fan. I wonder what they thought of the handball now?!
Like anything else in like where discipline is required, it’s a mechanism where one is disciplined verbally/physically whereas the offender shall think twice on what he/she has just done. Nothing like that in football so a much more cut throat approach is needed.
Finances. I do laugh at these foreign investors who suddenly adopt a club from the A-Z of who’s who in the Premier League. What’s worse is supporters welcome them and their riches i.e City but they aren’t there forever. When they go they’ll be an uproar, club administration. Who do I blame for allowing it to happen? The fans did nothing, they jumped on the bandwagon. The FA have a so called “fit & proper person’s test” which has proved flawed with many loopholes.
Tribalism works if those above them know how to control them. They’ll always be there so the game won’t listen to itself. Imagine the impact if all Premiership clubs supporters boycotted a single weekend?
People power can work but unfortunately will only come to the fore when it’s too damn late.
Now now Standish, no need for insults on how my brain may work! It’s a debate where two points of view have been measured up.
I must admit I’m in somewhat of a bear pit trying to act with morals and standards in respect to a game which has neither.
I’m debating with people who have a vested interest, a natural biased, I have neither. I don’t think you’d have the ability to strip yourself of this allegiance for a day and have a real conversation on the state of football. Unfortunately it’s not possible :P
Interesting replies in the spiralling world that is football and the wages it pays.
I see automated defense of ones sport with full justification for doubling a wage.
If a rich oil tycoon from one of the Arab countries bought in and was willing to pay Charles 60k, would that make it acceptable because it’s the way the game rolls now? What about the principle?
The problem in any debate on such messageboards is the automatic biased for their team and it’s game. I have no allegiance anymore hence the username and have a different but neutral perspective. It seems to me your quite happy with the football freakshow and given the chance to compete with the silly wage league, you would take part.
One final point it’s not out of boredom or because I want to wind anybody up, quite a few users on here know who I am and hates the way the game is modelled right now. I just took the chance of giving it all up, I see more clearly now.
p.s Loudmouth says: – “it make no difference if the increase is from 300 to 600 quid a week or 30k to 60k a week”.
No, none at all :roll: :roll:
I’d be a little worried if your making comparisons with the average man’s wage and a footballers!
p.s Standish says: – ”It’s not rubbish.
Everyone wants to earn more money to live better and buy bigger.
It’s exactly what he’s done.
Instead of a £250k car, he wants a £500k car; instead of a holiday at Sandy Lane each summer, he wants his own house in Barbados”.
Ouch! Are you seriously saying on his current wage he can’t have such things? Poor Charles! I must admit I laughed at this picture of Charles telling himself that he can finally afford something he couldn’t previously… Yea right!