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Plenty retro shirts on ebay,Ive noticed that 99% of the Wigan rugby retro shirts come with gravy stains.
If they aren’t gravy soaked Ellgren then I don’t entertain them.
Its the kids we need to target lets have Wigan kids wearing Latics kits and going to games not scum and bindipper fans.
Pfff shirts at £40-£50 a pop……lets start by knocking them out at a tenner each.[/quote]
Go retro, loads are doing it, take a look next season how many fans are wearing retro shirts![/quote]
It’s the future
The loan argument really does get on my wick.
Just because a player is on our books doesn’t make him any better than someone who isn’t. The way people on here go on about it you would turn down a loan move for Lionel Messi in favour of sticking Omar Bogle up top.
Also, nobody on here is privy to the agreements in such loans so there is a possibility that we are not paying as much for the players we bring in than those we loan out. Just because no club accepts a partial loan payment on Football Manager doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen especially with players who need game time which is probably why we had the stupid GK agreements that we had.
Finally, because one of our players is doing well at a club one, two or three tiers down makes him no better than a player who has played at this level for most of his career. Let’s use Billy McKay as an example. Scoring goals for Inverness in a crap league doesn’t mean he should have been given a chance in the Championship above say Adam Le Fondre. Also, there is the possibility that ICT are paying McKay’s full wage whereas we only paid a percentage of Le Fondre’s. If ALF isn’t deemed good enough for the starting XI then that is fair enough but he is a better squad option than McKay regardless of the wage issue.
THE greatest moment. They can never take this from us.
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Wouldn’t fancy any of them.
There must be someone in league one who has done well with limited resources who would jump at the chance. Keith Hill maybe at Rochdale?
Nobody is being blinkered, they just live on planet earth.
Lets say we throw millions at trying to go up and fail. What then? If we make the same mistakes we made this season and appoint someone we believe will improve the academy but they fail, how do we get those millions back? Sell another 200,000 shirts in Asia?
I’m sorry, but if true, I really despair.It’s an absolute crock, and nobody will convince me otherwise.
Well, I’m in shock at that I really am.
It certainly clicked for Bobby when it mattered I thought we were superb in the final but that was his Achilles heel consistency. Overall I would have PJ’s Latics all day and the shed full of goals we scored. But as you rightly say preference.People would rather watch a team win than lose? Hold the presses!!
Only jokng, those sides we had under Jewell were class and just had a desire to win no matter what.
Always remember conceding against Notts County in the 90th minute in a game we were 3-0 up in but as it was the first goal we had conceded in something like 9 games John Filan, Jason De Vos and Matt Jackson were all clearly irate at the fact they had scored.
How do people know we paid the wages of all our loanees? Maybe that was part of the reasoning behind the stupid play if he’s fit deals? “You give him experience and we will pay his wages” ir happens.
Nuneaton! You could not have put it any better!!!!!Fil! Im not having a go. I kind of get where you are coming from. I honestly thought we could have finished in a “boring” mid-table slot this season. However, a LOT of bad behind the scenes decisions has cost the club this season. If sharpe/jackson have any nous about them, they will have learned serious lessons this season & im confident that we will bounce back.
But regardless. Just enjoy the ride!!
We took a risk with Joyce that failed miserably. I can understand why we appointed him but it massively backfired.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
There has always got to be a little bit of speculating to accumulate but for the club to exist long term it cannot throw money that it does not have at situations in order to climb back up the leagues.
The club has a budget (every other club does – some bigger & some smaller). Latics budget is what it is but the club is having a good go at it with the funds that it has available. They’ve made good decisions & they’ve made some shockers but its a simple fact of life that if an person or organisation spends money that it does not have, then one day that will catch up with them[/quote]And in football there are lots and lots of examples including one just down the road.
It’s time pack up then.Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.
We came out of the Premier League after EIGHT years with NO debts. Having been relegated three times in five seasons we have NO debts. For a club with hardly any income that is being ran well. Just look at some of the clubs who have followed a similar path. Blackburn for example.
Of course in the Prem we got TV money etc but ALL of that went on wages which is why we had to buy low and sell high. Check the annual reports if you’re one of the “Whelan has stolen it” brigade. The problem is that buying low and selling high only works for so long and once it stopped we were forced to trim the fat to allow the club to run with as minimal a loss as possible. Steve Bruce wasn’t happy with that so he left. Bobby came in and lasted 3 years longer in the Prem than I think anyone expected and gave us all an everlasting memory. He did all of that whilst balancing the books and having the lowest budget in the division.
Until the day when we miraculously start to get 25K week in week out and sell shirts all over the planet we have to keep to a certain budget for the good of the club. If we were to go off your ideas (as much as we all would love to as fans of course) then we would be in a worse state than Bolton in about 2 years and probably wouldn’t exist within 5.
None of us like taking the cheap option and would love to be competing, but we are Wigan Athletic not Real Madrid.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
Exactly Runcorn. It has nothing to do with wanting to be back in the lower leagues it is about being realistic. We can’t afford to operate in billions of debt like the Utds of this world because we don’t have the pulling power.
