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This:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatchesI didn’t watch it but may have a shufty on 4oD later
Was Roger injured today ?
He seemed well enough to go and watch Stoke v Arsenal today, I would have thought if he was a ‘team player’ he should have been cheering us on in our fine win at Forest.
Do you go in to work to cheer on your work colleagues on your day off?[/quote]
I would even come to your work and cheer you on for 20 grand a week!
Please forgive me if I am mistaken here but, a Saturday afternoon at the beginning of March is not normally a day off in the life of a professional footballer.[/quote]
As far as I’m aware, not every single member of the first team squad who doesn’t make the matchday squad for a particular game is expected to attend said game – particularly if it is away from home.
On top of that, Espinoza’s flight was probably from Heathrow on Sunday & he’s decided to go down the day before to save him driving down on the day (depending on what time his flight was he may have had to set off from the north west at 2am if he’d travelled on the day of the flight) & he’s decided to take in a game at Arsenal.
On top of that again, it would appear that Rosler has not included him in the match day squad at all for the Forest game coz he doesn’t want him to have had a game on the Saturday, travelled to Honduras, played a game & travelled back within a 5-6 day period so that he’s potentially ready for the City gameI don’t see any problem whatsoever with him not being at the City Ground on Saturday
I wonder if he’ll be back in time to play at Wembley.FA Cup Semi-Final, FA Cup Final or play-off final??
I disagree. Seeing as there is a guaranteed £427,500 just for being on TV in the 6th round, then the club could have taken a punt on the extra 2250 tickets and even if none of them were sold, the cost would have been a maximum of £45,000, with the added advantage of 2250 less City fans cheering their side on.Judging by the speed at which the remaining tickets went on sale suggests that most, if not all, of the tickets would have sold next week, particularly as today was payday for many working people.
Latics are a club looking to fill in a very large hole in their income since relegation, & whilst they’ve made great strides in cost cutting whilst not decimating the squad, every penny really does count.
Therefore if it comes down to having a guaranteed £45,000 in their own or City’s bank account then the club is going to choose the former every time & rightly soI played netball once (it was for a chairty game at the school where I work before anyone takes the pish) & not only can you not run with the ball but even when you can run you are limited to whatever tiny bit of the court that the letters on your bib dictate. Step out of those areas & you get penalised.
I’ve not given away as many penalties in a sport since I played rugby union for my university after having been at a secondary school where you played rugby league or nowt.
Despite this, my team won!!Ice skating isn’t a sport. Ballroom dancing isn’t so why on earth is ice skating? Same goes for the gymnastics where the fling that ribbon or them balls about
bottom of the league in Spain too Betis, all sorts of trouble.We should have beaten them men at home and unlucky away.
If I’m honest Maribor ref did us in the end – didn’t know at the time but watched it since at home and that was one of the worst decisions for a penalty let alone a sending off I’ve ever seen.
The ref was right to give the penalty (in my opinion). If you jump out to charge a ball down with your arms in a protective position as McCann’s were then as a ref you can infer that if it hits the arms/hands then it was deliberate.
That said I have seen ref’s not give them
What he got really, really wrong in my opinion was the 2nd yellow for that offence. Never in a million years but he seemed to be under the impression that any offence in the penalty area should be a caution coz he did the same for their guy who fouled Powell for the penalty Gomez scored fromWe had an hour’s notice that Maribor hadn’t won in Kazan, although hardly a surprise ;)Win against Zulte and we’re through…so Coyle doesn’t pick a striker, or even Holte.
I think DW made his mind up that night about Coyle’s future….
In all fairness, that was a tactic that he was using in a lot of games in europe & the league. Also Latics were absolutely bossing that game until Nicholls dropped a b0ll0ck. Where Coyle did get it wrong was in having absolutely no idea about the counter attack system Waregem used & once they did start employing it, even less idea about how to counteract it
If said correctly, ‘Champions’ has three syllables/beats, and doesn’t fit into the song. ( FA Cup Champ-i-ons)However, ES2’s finest sing the song like a shoal of guppies feeding, and therefore don’t need to break from their open mouth – close mouth rhythm if they turn it into a two-beat word – ‘FA Cup Champ-yuns’
‘FA Cup Winners’ has the right number of syllables and is much more understated.
Yours
P. Edant(PS. Just spotted my typo on the Cummunity Sheild. Don’t know what you get for winning, but you get a biscuit for losing)
Maybe they don’t pronounce it correctly but in doing so it fits the song better than winners – its about more than the number of syllables but the sound & speed of saying the word & the speed of that section of the chant.
To fit “winners” in to the chant correctly it ends up having to be pronounced as wiiiiners (or somet like that). Just “winners” leaves you missing the beat man!!Top marks on the biscuit gag though!! :lol: :lol:
How’a about this then?The first teamclub in the history of the FA Cup ever to have referred to themselves es FA Cup Champions rather than Winners or Holders are, unsurprisngly, the thick as shit fans of Wigan Athletic.
Which is no surprise really, as they fail to sing the correct words to their own signature tune (… “you never notice”?) and couldn’t even work out that when adopting the chant from the Zulte Waragem fans of “Zul…. te…” that they should have taken the opportunity to use the syllables “Wig…. an…” and used the more neanderthal “Oooh… ah” instead.
Debate it all you want. FA Cup Champions is just wrong.
Lock the thread.
Or looked at another way, only Wigan Athletic supporters could be petty enough to start an argument about whether to refer to the club as FA Cup Champions of FA Cup Winners when all that really matters is we won the f00kin thing
correct or not, “FA Cup Champions” just works best in the songExactly – although technically it is as correct as winners!! ;)
If you’re looking at definitions in the English language, you could also have FA Cup Victors or FA Cup Defeaters. Yes, they’re grammatically correct, but nobody uses them – just like FA Cup Champions.Or by the same rule, Man Utd are Cummunity Shield Champions.
Google FA Cup Champions and look at the results: nothing. It’s all FA Cup Winners or FA Cup Holders.
It’s a phrase that’s unique in Britain to ES2, DW Stadium, Wigan – the same people who also came up with the song: ‘Again, we’re going to win you again, we’re going to win you again…’
FA Cup Winners when you win it, FA Cup Holders when you’re defending it.
Cummunity Shield?? I don’t wanna know how you compete for that one!! ;)
Personally I would use “FA Cup Winners” in a historical/past tense so I would search google for a list of previous FA Cup winners. So for me Latics were the 2013 FA Cup winners but are “reigning” FA Cup “champions” and “current” FA Cup “holders”. the different versions sound better to me depending on the context but ultimately it doesn’t matter however coz all are grammatically correct.
In terms of the chant at Latics, for me the word champions fits in with the beat/rhythm of the chant far better than the word winners does
Incidentally whilst FA victors my be grammatically correct (although I’d use it in the sense that Latics emerged from the final as victors), FA defeaters isn’t – the synonyms of defeater are defeat, conquer, overcome & sudue. So whilst Latics may have been the defeaters of Manchester City in the final, they are not FA Cup defeatersF00kin ‘ell – I’ve heard it said that I’m pedantic but this is ridiculous
The definition of champions is: a person/team who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition
The definition of winners is: a person/team that wins somethingBoth words have in their definition the other word as a synonym (a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language) so it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference.
I’m guessing that as City play Barcelona (could have done with em having more of a chance in that 2nd leg) on the Wednesday after the quarter final & Latics play Sheff Wed on the Tuesday that the City v Latics quarter final will be the Saturday evening kick off & will be shown by BT Sport.
Not that it’s stopped the FA & TV companies before, but I’d imagine that neither Latics nor City would be very happy with being made to play on the Sunday
