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I was on the terrace at the phoenix stand side, so had a great view of the incident. It was shocking. Connolly should’ve sued, as I think it ended how career.
I recall kids being lead out in tears, and I think their team coach got attacked. The bad feeling was worst I’ve ever seen.And where is Kevin Francis today?
He’s a policeman in Canada. (source: fourfourtwo magazine last year)
I do remember Connolly playing for Latics again as he played a few in our first season back down in the 4th division & I seem to remember him scoring a winner away at Mansfield. He got released when his contract ended at the end of that season though
In fact I also remember reading Fever Pitch a year later. Aside from the overall memory of it being absolute garbage & very much a “look the middle class can like football too” kind of book I remember one of the chapters being about how so few players make it. He talks about lads he knew at school & uni who were head & shoulders above everyone but never made it & then he goes on to talk about some Arsenal youth team who must have won the FA Youth Cup – names them all & says that none of em were playing professional football any more. Dean Connolly was one of the players named & at the time Hornby wrote it he was still playing (either for us or whoever we bought him off – Barnsley??).
Summed the book up to be honest along with somet else which basically said if the price to pay for clubs going all seater was that a load of lower league teams went bust then so whatKevin Francis :angry:Good shout – did he even get booked for that challenge on Dean Connolly???? I was stewarding at that game on the grass verge of the away end & didn’t have the greatest view of the challenge in all honesty but a mate of mine who was the steward on the perimeter wall where the St Andrew’s stand met the town end has always said that it was one of the worst challenges he’s ever seen.
If I remember right it took ages to treat Connolly & get him off the pitch yet the ref blew for full time not long after the game re-started which my mate reckons was done coz the atmosphere down that end got really volatile & the ref bricked it
I do remember the atmosphere being quite bad in the return leg at Edgeley Park as a result & it all kicking off at full time in the away end with stewards & the policeAs for bad boys – not quite sure whether they deserve the title but I’ll say Dennis Wise & Robbie Savage. Not especially coz of the stuff they sued to do like sly pinches & treading on people on the refs blind side but coz if someone used to do the same thing to them they went down howling & screaming like a 4 yr old girl
At least someone like Vinnie Jones who used to dish it out could also take it tooBeen down for a Spurs ticket for a mate this morning.There are now only £85.00 seats left. The general sale lot are in for a big shock I’m afraid !! :(
Serves em right for not having a ST. ;)and what’s a JCL???
I can confirm that
In addition I phoned the ticket office this morning to clear up a query about buying them online. I’d spoke with them the day before about somet else & they’d said that I could buy online from 10am but they said today that they will not be selling online or over the phone when they go on general sale on Sunday because there are so few tickets left & presumably they do not want the possibility of someone who has queued up for hours on end missing out on a ticket to someone who has just rocked out of bed & turned their computer on (everything from “presumably” onwards are my own thoughts & isn’t anything anyone at the club said)
It’s put a right bomb amongst mine & my mats plans I can tell ya!!!!!!!!!!I was actually referring to your first paragraph where you said he “admitted in his book that he set out to injure him” & he didn’t
For some reason (possibly my red devil tinted specs) the paragraph you’re now referring to hadn’t registered!! ;)
That said, to me the fact that it was premeditated makes no difference to me. I often hear when I’m reffing a player say to a team mate that “the next time player X gets the ball, I’m gonna have him” & quite often they do. I’ll give a caution or sending off or just a free kick depending on what the foul was like (dangerous, reckless, excessive force etc..) and not that they were looking for an opportunity to do it. It’s part & parcel of the game
Biting someone, in the heat of the moment or not, (and it’s the second time he’s done it) nah sorry, for me it’s far worse
He never said that he deliberately tried to injure Haaland either
The quote in the book is “I’d waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard,” he wrote. “The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don’t ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries”
Now, don’t get me wrong it was a bad challenge. really bad. But even in my limited playing experience there were times when I deliberately fouled an opponent & sometimes hit em good & hard with a “have a bit of that” attitude similar to the quote above. But I never deliberately tried to injure them & that’s how I’ve always took Keane’s quote to be honest
Keane also said he’d never deliberately tried to injure an opponent (as I say different than deliberately fouling someone) & the writer of his book admitted to using artistic licence & paraphrasing sections of the book – although I admit that both of these were possibly attempts to backtrack as Keane realised he was gonna get into bother for the original comments
Your link doesn’t work but I’ve been on avfc.co.uk & assume you mean that they have only been given 3000 tickets.
Very odd if that is the case & can only assume that it is coz there is likely to be so much riding on the game that a) the fuzz want as few Villa fans there as possible & b) that the fuzz want to be able to put enough of a barrier between the bottom row of Villa fans & the pitch perimeter to avoid a repeat of what happened against Wolves last seasonThe difference here for me is that bad tackles & even elbows (within some kind of reason) are an accepted part of the game & everyone who steps out on to a football field knows there is some risk of that happening however deliberately or not it occurs
But biting????? No, nay, never as they say in Burnley. It shows an person completely lacking the necessary self-control to behave like an adult in general and on a football field in particular. Add it to the fact that he’s already done it to someone else before & clearly hasn’t learnt his lesson then the second punishment is quite rightly more severe – if you get jailed for an offence & upon release commit the same offence again & get caught then your second sentence will be more severeAnd congratulations to John Doe for correcting the incorrect statement about Roy Keane ending haaland’s career when (as bad & deliberate as that was) it had nothin to do with why he stopped playing
‘No, nay, never’ is the last thing they’d say in Burnley as it’s what sing in Blackburn as part of the song ‘Wild Rover’.
(Yes, I’ve already escorted myself to a police station to face a charge of extreme pedantry…)[/quote]
Have to correct you there. Blackburn may well sing “Wild Rover” but Burnley sing their own version which runs along the lines of “No, nay, never. No, nay, never, no more. Till we play the B—–d Rovers. No, nay, never, no more”
And nonaynever.net is a Burnley FC blog – not that I’ve ever been on it but it comes up on a google searchBetter also confess to the crime of making yourself look a t!t !!! Don’t worry, it doesn’t carry much of a penalty – I’m a repeat offender ;) ;)
The difference here for me is that bad tackles & even elbows (within some kind of reason) are an accepted part of the game & everyone who steps out on to a football field knows there is some risk of that happening however deliberately or not it occurs
But biting????? No, nay, never as they say in Burnley. It shows an person completely lacking the necessary self-control to behave like an adult in general and on a football field in particular. Add it to the fact that he’s already done it to someone else before & clearly hasn’t learnt his lesson then the second punishment is quite rightly more severe – if you get jailed for an offence & upon release commit the same offence again & get caught then your second sentence will be more severeAnd congratulations to John Doe for correcting the incorrect statement about Roy Keane ending haaland’s career when (as bad & deliberate as that was) it had nothin to do with why he stopped playing
I’ve taken a passing interest in german football since I used to watch Sgorio on S4C when i was a student in Wales & I adopted St Pauli as my german team.
To be honest, which league is better or worse in terms of general quality & how many Champions league finalists & so on that it produces doesn’t interest me, but in terms of how it treats its supporters & the focus of who the sport should be run for – The german league is head & shoulders above the Spanish, English & Italian ones. Cheap tickets, free travel (some friends of mine went watching Stuttgart from memory & were flabbergasted when told it was free if you had a match ticket – compare that to current Virgin return ticket prices to go to the final on a Sat & come back on the Sun), safe terracing, no one person/group allowed to own more than 51% of any club.
Can you imagine the German FA agreeing to hold their cup final at an incovenient time for the supporters of both clubs purely so that more people can watch it on TV & hence satisfy the terms of the contract they have with the companies that provide it
And on a personal taste level, I much prefer the general german style of play to that in Italy & particularly Spain which can often bore me rigidMe & a mate have booked into some place in Acton – its a few tube stops to Bond Street on the central line & then straight up to wembley.
Went for that option coz I’d rather head back into London after the game to continue the party & didn’t wanna then have to worry about having to then spend ages gettin back to the hotel/b&b – i’d rather have a few beers round London after the game than Watford/Uxbridge or the other places it was offering me on the outskirtsWe sat on 502 last week – the view is absolutely fine.Not doubting what people are saying but is it really right that there are seats from which you will not be able to see the presentation? That’s pretty bad, if so.
Dunno about the presentation but when one of them crap bands was playing before kick off last week I was having a look round to see where the hell they were actually playing from & couldn’t spot em so I can imagine that it wouldn’t be much different for a presentation (although at least then you have a rough idea of where they’ll be – near the dug outs). & I certainly couldn’t see anything that looked like the presentation bit like they used to have at the old Wembley
For ease of reference i was sat in block 113I agree. I feel that the best way to keep city fans out of our end and get the most genuine fans going, two per season ticket is best.That still leaves about 4-5000 for people on the database with a consistent purchasing history.
Not many would get on the black market because i dont know many season ticket holders who wouldn’t utilise their second ticket for family or genuine latics fans.
Would be far easier for the club to administer and prevent family and friends sitting all over the shop.
I’ve yet to hear one good reason why being a season ticket holder should give you any right to buy a cup final ticket for a family member – especially when it may be for someone who has never been before & could be over someone who goes to many home & away but for whom buying a ST isn’t economical.
And if family & friends have to sit apart then so be it (IMO)Secondly, 1(ONE) per season ticket holder, then one per person on the club data base with purchasing history, these will be sold in in 4 seperate groups, group one being the most purchases on the account, so the more tickets you have bought further up the queue you are.
After this the previous groups will be able to purchase one further ticket in the same order for family or friends.The club think this is the fairest way of distributing a limited supply and will allow more people who actually go to games, as opposed to friends and family members getting seats from season ticket holders despite rarely going to games.
Announcement due Friday.
Whilst this does seem the fairest way that I’ve heard of allocating priority so far I can’t possibly see how on earth the club could possibly make that work & how would someone know just where they came on the list & therefore when they could buy one
And how would they rank it? Would I as someone who had a season ticket from before the DW/JJB opened but now only makes a handful be ranked as having bought all home tickets for matches between 1999 & 2008 (& therefore I assume would be high up the list) or would I be low down coz I’m not down as having bought 19-23+ tickets a season & who over the last few seasons has only made about 5 or 6 a year? And would purchasing away tickets count too??
Just seems far too complicated to be workable to me & somet that seems far to complicated for Latics admin to get right (no offence to anyone involved!!)
