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Having been to most of the NWCL & NPL grounds over the last couple of years there is somet refreshing about the whole atmosphere of clubs run by people purely for the love of it & played by fellas not concerned about their next signing on fee or sponsorship deal
Shame the referees are still as shite ;)[/quote]
To be fair, I’m only allowed to run the line at games in those leagues & from what I’m told the assistants are the dog’s gajimba’s!!
0-0 at half-time was I think a good possibility for a positive result, but defensive frailties led to goals. Penalty shouts were to be expected from the home team and bench, and I think the visitors put up a strong performance.
Mind you, at £2 to get in I couldn’t complain.
Did I mention I went to watch Ashton Town in the FA Vase? Really enjoyable – as I didn’t go to Old Trafford and pay exhorbitant amounts of money some may view me as not a real supporter. But I was at least supporting a local team. And frankly, I don’t care what anyone else thinks anyway.
Key moment for me today though was when one of the opposition (a team from Rotherham) was absolutely clattered by an Ashton player. Probably one of the hardest tackles I’ve seen in a long time. Did he writhe around? Did he need treatment? No.
He got up and the captain of his team shouted to the rest “come on, lads, let’s ****ing give them the same back”.
I watched Ashton town v Ashton athletic on Tuesday! Great little club Ashton!!!![/quote]
It is a good little club but the game you should have been at was their FA Youth Cup game against Southport on the 5th where yours truly was in the middle & they won 1-0
Back there on Saturday for their reserves County Cup game & again the Sunday after for some other youth gameHaving been to most of the NWCL & NPL grounds over the last couple of years there is somet refreshing about the whole atmosphere of clubs run by people purely for the love of it & played by fellas not concerned about their next signing on fee or sponsorship deal
Granted our only ever goal at Old Trafford came from a penalty that wasn’t, BUT regards the Welbeck incident ask yourself whether you feel it would be a penalty at the other end? I think the majority of us will say no.In my opinion it looked a penalty on initial viewing (from the TV angle anyway) & I’d like to think that Latics would have been given it, but we’ll never know.
I have to say though, what on earth was Ali doing for that one? Welbeck was going absolutely nowhere & had Al Habsi not come out, he would have had to check his run, turn round & try & put a cross in. To come haring otu & lunging in gave the ref a decision to make (which admittedly he got wrong) when he should never have had to make one.
Dunno about any of the others mentioned coz I’ll be honest & admit that my viewing of the game consisted of fast forwarding my recording of football first to the penalty, all 4 goals, Bobby’s post match interview & nowt elseAli is allowed the occasional bad game. The guy has kept us up the last two seasons.Agreed – everyone has an off day. Saturday certainly was for Ali – should have held the first, should have claimed the ball across the goal area for the 2nd & should have been able to deal with a pretty tame shot for the 3rd.
Admittedly the defending was pretty shocking for the 2nd & 3rd goals too. Not to mention the 4th where (ignoring the hot potato defending from those who were back) there seemed to be a massive gap, totally devoid of Latics players between the 6 in the 18 yard area & the others who must have been hovering around the half way line that allowed Powell to run unchallenged & get his shot in.I wonder why it is that against the other “big clubs” that when Latics go a goal down they still seem to be able to keep their peckers up but against United 1 goal conceded invriably means they’ll be 3 or 4 down within 15 minutes?
There is the odd corrupt policeman about – there always has been. My late father-in-law was a prime example, who was eventually thrown out of the force. But on the whole, the policemen I know are good people – mostly family men, who you would not know were in the police unless someone else told you.
Everything you’ve written about prior to the Motorway policeman incident is just evidence of a lack of resources and powers. My mates bemoan the fact that they can arrest someone caught in the middle of a crime only for them to be released the next day without charge, and half their time is taken up with paperwork instead of being out on the streets.
Actually, you make a good point.
It’s the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) that lets this country down. The CID put a solid case together against the youth who had done all those crimes against my friend. The CID OIC of the case was supremely confident that the lad would get a custodial sentence…..only for him to be bailed. That happened on TWO occasions before he was finally jailed for 8 months in a young offenders prison. Everytime he was bailed he was straight back trying to kill my friend and her kids.
I could tell that the Police were very frustrated by the CPS, and were wondering what exactly they had to do to get an appropriate sentencing on the lad. So its the CPS where a lot of the problem lies.
I never came face to face with the scumbag….but I will do one day. If i heard he was dead tomorrow, I would have a party. Honestly.[/quote]
The CPS decide whether there is enough evidence to chareg someone or whether it is in the public interest etc.. Once they have done that they have nothing more to do with it
They certainly have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with sentencing anyone who is found guilty of any offence so I’m not quite sure how they are letting the country down if an offenders sentence is viewed by some as too lenientWas Dylan Thomas not a raging p*ss head?
I think that is where the similarities end.
Tony Wilson once described Shaun Ryder as the modern day W.B. Yeats so this guy is taking over Thomas’s mantle
Just listen to the words of “Losin her” (in the link on the right hand side) & it’s like he’s possessed by his ghost!! :blink:[/quote]
I think the actual quote (according to 24 Hour Party People) is “Shaun Ryders lyrics on a good day are on par with W.B Yeats on a bad day.”
And I personally think the best Happy Mondays song Lyrically was “Step On” although it is surprisingly little known that this was a cover.
The lad is no John Cooper Clarke and putting the poor lyrics aside its also poorly recorded probably in his room with a free copy of Audacity and a £5 mic of ebay.
I expect it is no shock to you that I am once again disagreeing but music or any art form would be obsolete by its own nature if everyone had the same opinion and understanding of it.[/quote]
The actual quote from 24 hour party people is:
“Tony Wilson: You know, I think that Shaun Ryder is on a par with W.B. Yeats as a poet.
Yvette: Really?
Tony Wilson: Absolutely. Totally.
Yvette: Well, that is amazing, considering everyone else thinks he’s a f*****g idiot.”To be fair they’re probably both right!!
Some of his lyrics are pretty good although I can’t say the ones from Step On have ever stood out to me – My own personal favourites are “Jesus is a c**t who’s never helped you with a thing that you do. Or you’ve done” (can’t remember the song title & I may have it wrong but that’s what it’s always sounded like to me!!) & one from his Black Grape days “Oh Pope he got the Nazi’s, To cover up their messes, He exchanged the gold & paintings, he gave them new addresses”.
There’s plenty examples tooGoing back to Mr RealityInPoetry I give up now coz I was taking the pish but it seems to have been missed!!!
Since I heard it I’ve been trying to figure out whether he’s serious or whether with lyrics like “Hindley bus, Shevvy bus, Leigh bus” & “You can catch me in the station watching Latics on the plasma screen” whether he’s having a laugh & trying to be Wigan’s equivalent of MC Pitman
Reminds me of when I worked at Newton High School & they had an MC event after school which I earwigged in on and then got asked to leave by one of the SMT coz I kept laughing – apparently that wasn’t the response they were aiming for!!And me, I like funk & very little else – now if you slag that off then we have got a fight on our hands!!!
I don’t suppose any has any footage of the rather handsome yet ever so slightly hungover Latics fan that BBC News interviewed in their studio at about 7.30am on the Sunday morning do they??
a good lad but he should be playing for his home country, he has let scotland down imo.
He promised his dying Irish grandfather that he’d play for Ireland, so I’d say he’s let nobody down.[/quote]
I read an interview with him where he stated that his decision to represent the Irish Republic wasn’t coz he felt irish as opposed to Scottish or because he didn’t like Scotland as a country but because he felt the SFA had treated him like dirt at every youth level as he was growing up (when he obviously felt he should have been being selected) & even when he broke through at club level it was the IFA that came knocking & not them.
Sort of an eff you to them kind of gestureWas Dylan Thomas not a raging p*ss head?I think that is where the similarities end.
Tony Wilson once described Shaun Ryder as the modern day W.B. Yeats so this guy is taking over Thomas’s mantle
Just listen to the words of “Losin her” (in the link on the right hand side) & it’s like he’s possessed by his ghost!! :blink:
The lack of comments despite 90 reads tells me that this sh*t must be accepted ! Come on ! It is pure 100% cringe-worthy !
Cringeworthy??
“Could I be the next Whelan? I’d say I could have been. And you can tell by the way I say nay, I’m from Wigan”
“You, you pay your mortgage. Me I pay Wigan & Leigh Housing”
“Proud to hold the world pie eating championships. We eat Sayers. Peace to Pooles”Its lyrical genius that is goodpost goodpost goodpost[/quote]
It’s shite ! :huh:[/quote]
Oh come on, with stuff like:
“And although I bleed cherry & my skins white, I don’t follow super league, I’m Athletic all night”
the boy’s a wordsmith on a par with Dylan ThomasMaybe we can adopt these particular lines as a new terrace anthem or somet!!!!
The lack of comments despite 90 reads tells me that this sh*t must be accepted ! Come on ! It is pure 100% cringe-worthy !Cringeworthy??
“Could I be the next Whelan? I’d say I could have been. And you can tell by the way I say nay, I’m from Wigan”
“You, you pay your mortgage. Me I pay Wigan & Leigh Housing”
“Proud to hold the world pie eating championships. We eat Sayers. Peace to Pooles”Its lyrical genius that is goodpost goodpost goodpost
Personally I would leave the back 4 and let them have time playing together to get to understand each other properly.Therefore,
Ali
Caldwell Alcaraz Ramis
Stam Jones Watson Fyvie Beausejour
Miyachi Boselli McManaman
Di Santo
Maloney
Kone
Pollitt
Lopez
McCarthy
BoyceI think that the FA might have something to say about you starting the game with 12 men???
Go on then, I’ll be the dissenting voice on this thread :woohoo:
Wasn’t much cop as a centre forward. got stuck out on the left wing for a specific tactic of Jewell’s & got a decent goal return but his overall goals + assists tally was less than someone like Gary Teale who got stick from the crowd coz he “didn’t get stuck in” – Teale also didn’t commit stupid tackles in do or die games against relegation rivals that could have cost his team dear (Sheff Utd).
On top of that, top loyal, reet Latics mon, always gave 100% Lee McCulloch by his own admiration “kicked up absolute hell” to try & force Jewell to sell him despite the fact that the club who had provided him with his career boost & had brought him to the attention of other clubs by working on his game, were in the middle of a relegation battle. Then gave an interview in the Evening Post when the window closed saying how gutted he was he hadn’t got the move but that he “was now going to start giving 100% for the remainder of the season”.
Always baffled me that he was hero worshipped depsite that when Chimbonda was vilified for handing in a transfer request when the season had ended (albeit only just like!!)Just my own personal opinion but he could go swing for what he did in the latter stages of his time at Latics
Looks like you’re a minority again Tyldesley!
You used to post as Wayne Biggins didn’t you?[/quote]
No, I’ve posted as TyldesleyLatic since I first discovered the site in 1999
You asked for candid opinions of McCulloch so there was mine!! ;) And how the hell did I type “by his own admiration” instead of “by his own admission”????
Go on then, I’ll be the dissenting voice on this thread :woohoo:
Wasn’t much cop as a centre forward. got stuck out on the left wing for a specific tactic of Jewell’s & got a decent goal return but his overall goals + assists tally was less than someone like Gary Teale who got stick from the crowd coz he “didn’t get stuck in” – Teale also didn’t commit stupid tackles in do or die games against relegation rivals that could have cost his team dear (Sheff Utd).
On top of that, top loyal, reet Latics mon, always gave 100% Lee McCulloch by his own admiration “kicked up absolute hell” to try & force Jewell to sell him despite the fact that the club who had provided him with his career boost & had brought him to the attention of other clubs by working on his game, were in the middle of a relegation battle. Then gave an interview in the Evening Post when the window closed saying how gutted he was he hadn’t got the move but that he “was now going to start giving 100% for the remainder of the season”.
Always baffled me that he was hero worshipped depsite that when Chimbonda was vilified for handing in a transfer request when the season had ended (albeit only just like!!)Just my own personal opinion but he could go swing for what he did in the latter stages of his time at Latics
I think people might be getting a bit too conspiracy theoryish about this.
In the cold light of day, I don’t think Moses is even remotely close to being able to command a starting XI spot at chelsea & his chances of making the bench are only slightly nearer, so I don’t think that Latics are holding the deal up coz they don’t want him having a blinder against us.
It’s also well known (with a nudge & a wink) that some clubs will sell a player & there’s an under the counter, gentleman’s agreement that said player won’t play against the selling club – didn’t Everton not play Howard against United a few years back & there were accusations of that which were denied & which couldn’t be proved?My theory is that Latics are holding out for what they consider to be an acceptable fee & which may well come next week or in the next 2 weeks.
If my theory is correct then I think Moses will play as he’s been involved all pre-season. Also there’s a slight difference to the N’Zogbia situation coz if memory serves me right Latics had agreed a deal & it was all set to go through till the @r$e fell out of it on the eve of the season with Brum claiming N’Zogbia had slept on the initial offer & changed what he wanted & N’Zogbia’s camp claiming somet else
