Was your mate American?[/quote]

No but I was using a work pc at the time I posted & didn’t want to type the word arse!![/quote]

Could you not have wrote bum or bottom?[/quote]

I thought butt was more sweary and closer to what was said than bum or bottom which sound too polite

It seems a very odd move for Jonah this one.

From what i can gather, he’s had numerous chances to take manager’s jobs and some high profile assistant ones too & he’s turned them all down to stay with Bobby.

When he finally does make the move it’s as an assistant to a rookie manager at a Championship club after he’s helped take a small country to the semi-finals of the World Cup. Very odd

Unless he figures that WBA only reluctantly seemed to be give the job to Darren Moore & that he’ll be given the heave ho at the first sign of a bad run of form & the manager’s job will be his :blink: :blink:

I don’t get it, but best of luck to him anyway – seems a lifetime away that me & some mates bumped into the Latics squad near Hammersmith tube station after a Fulham game & after the coach had stopped at a mini-market type shop. Jonah piled out with a couple of cans of coke & several packs of biscuits & wasn’t overly impressed when my mate suggested he put some of the biscuits back as he was starting to get a fat butt!!

So what you’re saying is that you don’t trust the judgement of the man & his team who see him in training every day, & in reserve/development matches because you have barely seen him yourself??

How do you know that he’s not been given fitness targets in training that he’s missed? How do you know that he’s not been being asked to follow instructions in games & training & he’s just ignored them? How do you know that Cole himself hasn’t gone to Cook after the summer break & said he wants to leave?

He did fine against Kyle Walker :D[/quote]

Everyone did well against City – doesn’t mean that they’re all good enough to play in the top flight

When he was sentenced the judge said: “You have a number of significant psychological issues for which it now appears you are receiving appropriate treatment.

“The community is best protected if the causes of your binge drinking are removed and that requires extensive work with a number of agencies.”

He hasn’t just said he got bullied when he was 15 nor was he just someone who likes to have a few & then drive home.
As I said he clearly has mental health & significant problems with alcohol (I’d say alcoholic but I’m no expert) and he has and probably still is receiving treatment for those

That shows why he didn’t receive a prison sentence and also why Latics are looking at him. As long as he continues on this path then I have no issue with Latics signing him if our manager thinks he’s good enough and if there are clauses in his contract that protect thee club should he ever suffer setbacks on his road to recovery

On talk sport early today they read out the handball rules and not in any way did that decision against Croatia match up to the rules. It has to be deliberate the hand or arm moving towards the ball and not the ball moving towards the hand or arm TL is once again the lad to ask but to me personally it has been the penalty decisions that VAR has consistently got wrong.[/quote]

I’d agree that it’s been the handball decisions that VAR (or the ref’s have after watching it) has got badly wrong – although I also feel that it seems bizarre at the times it does get used as opposed to some blatant things where it doesn’t get used

For me that yesterday was never a handball offence in the memory of man – handball is the only offence in football that mentions intent. You have to deliberately handle the ball & there is no way on earth that the Croatian player deliberately handled it.
You can infer intent based on the position & or movement of the arms but that yesterday was a case of him moving his arm in a natural movement following his jump & the ball hitting his arm as it was moving downwards.
He didn’t jump up with his arms above his head & that it was headed on to them (when for me you can infer intent as there’s no need for the arms to be in that position) & you can even see him trying to move his arms out of the way in the fraction of a second after the ball goes over the French players head.
Just because he deliberately moved his arms doesn’t mean that he deliberately handled the ball
But that’s the problem with VAR for handballs & also why nowhere else in the laws of the game does it mention intent – because its impossible to get inside a player’s head & determine that they meant it. But you start to watch it over & over again with slow mo & freeze frames & it starts to put an intent there that doesn’t exist
With a claim for a foul & penalty you can see its either a foul or it isn’t – if the law on foul tackles said it had to be deliberate you’d have a nightmare judging that.

I also think the ref interpreted the use of VAR wrongly – if it has to be a clear & obvious error & you spend several minutes looking at it, make up your mind & then go back to have another look then it isn’t clear & obvious

We’ll never know if this is the case but the ref then made a decision which for me altered the outcome of that match. It was 1-1 with Croatia far & away the better side & all of a sudden just before half time you’re 2-1 down with a mountain to climb. It effected the mental state of both teams & the 2nd half reflected that. Awful decision

That said, by & large the VAR worked a bit better than I thought it would, although it needs a lot more work on it – namely when it is & isn’t used coz there were some horrible inconsistencies & yeah, it really didn’t seem to work for handball appeals

Agreed. Including Harry Maguire the other night.
For me it should be a cautionable offence just like waving an imaginary card at the ref is[/quote]

Don’t blame Maguire for doing that. It was a clear headbutt and was a red card, and a penalty to England. Why should England players always be the noble ones? If boot was on other foot, Columbian players would be going nuts.

Henderson was stupid to do similar later.[/quote]

Sorry but for me its a lack of respect for the referee just as waving imaginary cards at them is.
The referee has a fourth official seeing things on a screen. He also has however many are watching on TV in a studio with God knows how many angles of it. They don’t need players telling (& displaying it to everybody else there) them they’ve missed something/got it wrong.
Its like clapping a decision that they give after you’ve moaned at them all game they’ve given you nowt, or the card thing & should be a nailed on caution

Maguire didn’t need to do it – the ref saw it, or his many assistants did, & it was decided it was a caution. Personally I think they were wrong & it should have been a red (as it should have been for Henderson) but the players shouldn’t be allowed to publicly demonstrate like that however incensed & hard done to they feel

EDIT – sorry to be pedantic but as the free kick hadn’t yet been taken, the ball wasn’t in play, so there’s no way under the laws of the game that it should have been a penalty