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It is really difficult to pick a deserving captain. They all seem to have some sort of stigma attached to them. The ones that haven’t, Hart is full of arrogance and never agreed with keepers being captains anyway and Lampard doesn’t play much these days. Gerrard, Rooney, Cole, The experienced senior Enlgish players in general have a chequered past. I don’t think Rooney is anywhere near mentally mature enough to lead a national side. He is far to petulant. Beckham is the best captain we have had for a while.
Out of the current squad, And not being biased i see no better candidate than Leighton Baines. Cleverley in the future.
Yeah they fall into the same kind of category. Ok so they may have been brought up on other teams by their fathers and grand fathers but there is no need to despise your home town club (assuming they are Wiganers) Probably jealousy because they could have never envisaged us being in the Premiership and now we are here they are too embarrassed to follow us so they put us down instead. I was working in Tamworth for a couple of years and West Brom had just gone down. I was having a tattoo done and when the artist saw my Latics one he started probing me on why i supported them. My answer was really simple, I was Wigan born and bread. he insisted it was a joke we were in the Premiership as our fans and club size wasn’t good enough to be here and we had effectively stole his teams place in the top league. I weathered the storm for a while then pointed out that Tamworth had a football team and he elected to support West Brom. I asked why and all he could say was, Tamworth are s**t.
I think the people of Latics who hate the Warriors just hate rugby in general and the people of the Warriors who hate Latics just hate football in general. Most of the people i know who like both support both. The ones who just cheer St Helens on are in the ‘hate rugby in general’ category. I love having two Wigan teams to watch it’s great. If there was a Wigan tennis, Snooker or whatever player i would support them also, Ice hockey or anything else.
Rugby League for far to long has been trying to compete with `National sports` like football and rugby union,it cannot and its time they realised it.
Couldn’t agree more. i don’t mean that in a disparaging “stick to your village green sport” kind of way but more that in it’s 100 & odd years of existence it has always been a regional sport. & a good one at that with a loyal band of followers
It didn’t spread not because people hadn’t heard of it but because, in the main,they either didn’t like it or they didn’t mind it but preferred to spend their money on other sports. That’s life – you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink
In their drive to “spread the gospel” the RFL has ignored some of its heartlands to pursue pipedreams of clubs in London, Gateshead, South Wales, North Wales & Paris. The naivety of thinking that “if we put a club in south wales people will come coz they like rugby down there” whilst leaving historical clubs like Leigh & Swinton to rot is shocking.
If you cut off a trees roots it will die & people in “rugby league” towns such as have lost interest in droves coz all they see is a sport with no hope of progression
I often think that football’s governing bodies haven’t got a clue what they’re doing but in comparison to those in charge of rugby league they’re like the professors of Oxford University[/quote]I still think it has the potential to grow but having two sets of different rules for the same sport will always cause problems in terms of growing it. RL was doing fine until 2 major factors started the decline. 1 is everybody’s favourite person ‘Owd Maurice’ and the salary cap is far too low.
Was in King Street on Saturday for the first time in months and i was surprised at the bar we used to go to quite a bit was filled with cretins of a certain age. You can see them a country mile off, I won’t be out again for a while now around town. I would much prefer Manchester. Was quite a difference, Sitting outside the John Bull until about 10pm in a nice somber atmosphere with good music in the background to venturing into King Street with all the idiots of the night. Why is it the sted heads and fancy Dan’s with their ‘only way is Essex’ haircuts act like tools of the highest order after a few ales. They infiltrate the pubs now too. I am extremely bored with this town.
I wasn’t talking about rugby I was explaining why one Wigan Athletic crowd was higher than the other one and using the town’s sporting team as a comparison.I didn’t start the thread, I was merely helping out our intellectually challenged friend with his whale sized chip on his shoulder.
Either way, I won’t be losing much sleep over the opinion of someone who is quite proud to announce that he doesn’t go to games yet still feels compelled to put the effort in to slag the manager off on a website.
Oh i do apologise. I wasn’t aware that it was mandatory to attend if you dare to wear the clubs colours. Unfortunately i have a life outside of football and it isn’t something i wish to spend the time or money on. I watch as much as i can of course but that stadium is lifeless and would depress me more if i had to watch footy in it again. I have been going for a long time and up until a couple of years ago hadn’t missed a home game in years. Been all over the country watching them too but i personally now prefer to watch on the tv. Doesn’t make me any less of a fan, I can do as i please, I still buy the tops, i still have the tattoo, I still buy the dvd’s and i still jump up and down when we score. How and where i do it is my business. I have as much right as anyone to air views. If tactics were wrong or referee, a bad miss etc etc i will say so. I don’t need permission to speak my mind.
First the best supported team in Wigan taking on arguably the form team in the EPL.
Fulham – 19284 – approx 500 away fans. 18784 home fans
Everton – 18759 – approx 5000 away fans. 13759 home fans
Dress it up whatever way you want, but the FACT is the best part of 5000 home supporters went AWOL today.
Care to explain where they were Fatty?[/quote]
I think you know the answer to this one unless you are even more moronic than many people here give you credit for. The answer is COST.
£30 a ticket for adults for one game and £20 for kids which is only £6 less than and the cost of a ticket to watch an ENTIRE SEASON of rugby league coupled with a restrictive database system means that it is difficult in both terms of access and affordability.
I’m not sure what leafy suburb you live in but you should read the local news and try and understand the hardship that Wiganers are suffering. Wigan Athletic fans are generally working class folk and youngsters who live in the town and are getting hit hard. Wigan Athletic do not spend a fortune on reaching out to the middle classes in Cheshire by advertising in between Corrie to drag posh folk in from out of town.
The Fulham game was lower category and had a two for one offer meaning that £10-£15 for an adult ticket meant there was a much stronger home take up due to better affordability for our young and growing support.
This is basic economics which you seem sadly unable to grasp.
It seems en vogue for you and your rugby chums to sneer at Latics for “only getting 18k on versus Man United” yet no credit given for 22k versus Wolves, West Brom. The bottom line is Wigan Athletic fans turn up to watch Wigan Athletic not the opposition, as and when it is affordable to do so.
We are not the team in Wigan who get 12k against the lesser teams and then 10,000 more come crawling out of the woodwork when it’s Saints or Warrington.
If tickets were continually priced at under £20 I think you’d find that the home support would increase gradually in line with the price reduction. As it stands £30 a ticket is hard to find with the likes of JJB, Rathbones, remploy all making redundancies off the back of hundreds of public sector job cutsand therefore many Wiganers are restricted to picking and choosing and attending those Category C games or games with special ticket offers.
Now that wasn’t too difficult to follow was it??[/quote]
Sounds like a lot of contradictory bollocks to me
A lot of that applies to both teams. If all of you hate rugby so much and can’t bear to watch it etc etc then why do you all talk about it on a footy forum all the time. It is envy of the highest order. It is quite sad.
Oops, thats probably cos i had to use two hands…I’d love to be more positive but it depends on Martinez’s tac tics. If the team plays with a higher tempo and more attack minded then we will do better.
If not then we’ll be firmly embedded in another relegation fightAnd the annoying thing is we know we can play that way.
Ta – hope it’s dry as i dont think the missus will be up for getting wet.You have set yourself up there :P :P
In a similar vein, I have a book called Wigan’s Worst Victorian Murders. Some of you will surely have come across it. It’s a belter, Tells you the crimes committed, The police investigations, The trials and then the punishments (which often let to hanging). Anyone who is anyone from Wigan should get it, It’s fascinating. I saw it on the shelf when i went for my Martinez autobiography.
Got told this in the pub after a few light ales. It’s rubbish but i found it hilarious.
Two Oranges sat at a bar, One turns to the other and say’s “You’re round”
Not my expectations, it’s the club’s. They were making good noises in the summer about mid table finished etc. They should back statements like that up. Im happy with the signings made and you all know where i feel we are weak. Im still confident about a comfortable finish this season don’t get me wrong but telling everyone we are going for a top 10 finish like some club personnel did in the summer seems a bit of a red herring to get more bums on seats.
I don’t really know what im getting at, I’m just sick of official club statements like that about avoiding relegation every year because we are such a small club. Anyone would think we were an amateur side. Other clubs don’t do it, We should say we are going to be competitive and confident about a higher league finish. Doesn’t instill much confidence reading the same old stuff. That compiled with the performances starting to take a familiar route.
Ah rite, It was just that, When we were younger me and my mates wagged the last day of school and went for a tour of Old Trafford and we spotted a ‘tic’ on Eccles bridge
Another non-starter i think, He only has 7 caps so i very much doubt he would get a work permit unless he has dual nationality.
