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seems now to have the ingredients of a good team – could well be Everton’s best yet.
Likely to outdo Liverpool for 2nd consecutive season. That will please many an Evertonian.
I suspect it would please EVERY Evertonian, wouldn’t it? :unsure:[/quote]
Some might expect more (top 4, top 6 ??? …)
Good point but then who misses out when Alcaraz is back either Figgy or Ramis though Ramis could fill the Boyce roll I suppose
As if you needed to ask the question !
Ramis in for Boyce ?? FFS, have you lost your marbles ?
Ramis still slower than a week in Majorca mid-winter. Comfortable on the ball he may be, but without it, looks vulnerable in many ways (big time)
I did read recently one particular stat; namely, Boyce runs further OR quicker (short distance) than many another Prem player. Don’t think ‘the old dog’ is done yet.[/quote]
Third time you’ve used that metaphor…(And it wasn’t yours in the first instance!!)I think Boyce will do for another season.[/quote]
goodpost
Hello SW, ‘Nice to know you’re here…’
you’ve been counting then.
unfortunately, I ‘ve lost track of the number of times young Ivan has been slow out the blocks ….perhaps you could advise as you’re such a good mathematician !
With the resources he as at his disposal,and for consistently getting everton too punch above there weight, season after season,in MY opinion he is the best
would agree goodpost
seems now to have the ingredients of a good team – could well be Everton’s best yet.
Likely to outdo Liverpool for 2nd consecutive season. That will please many an Evertonian.
Strong candidate for Man U manager (Hughes, Bruce ??? … :lol: :lol: )
Good point but then who misses out when Alcaraz is back either Figgy or Ramis though Ramis could fill the Boyce roll I supposeAs if you needed to ask the question !
Ramis in for Boyce ?? FFS, have you lost your marbles ?
Ramis still slower than a week in Majorca mid-winter. Comfortable on the ball he may be, but without it, looks vulnerable in many ways (big time)
I did read recently one particular stat; namely, Boyce runs further OR quicker (short distance) than many another Prem player. Don’t think ‘the old dog’ is done yet.
Enjoyed the game,kone & di Santo were terrific first half,if we did it for 90 we would be ok this season,fair result for me :ohmy:Agreed, thought the first 45 was as good as we’ve played this season …getting back to the form we showed back end of last year.
Di Santo, considering his lack of match fitness, was terrific. Pace and power upfront (sadly missing against Fulham / Sun’land).
Kone, coolness personified (quality), excellent pass for 2nd goal (Stoke City revisited). The 2 establishing a good rapport. Very much, looking good value for money.
Not quite so hot in defence. Everton admittedly a very good team. Still conceding at the rate of 2 goals per game.
On the basis Di Santo and Kone continue to gel and we get Alcarez back for Swansea (defence as you were, 2011/12), then I can see better days ahead…
Pity we couldn’t take all 3 points today. No keeper on earth would have saved Baines penalty. About time he did us a favour…long overdue !
Why do we not revert to the same 11 (bar Moses) that got us our best run of form? I would bench Ramis and Kone (too lazy to play up front on his own) and go back to the players and formation that finished the season in style. The Japanese lad may be best to replace Moses but other than that position the rest pick themselves. Boselli may look decent against reserve teams in the League cup but has looked woeful in the premier league at times and you can’t look past Di Santo as the number one forward surely.
It might have something to do with the fact that Di Santo and Alcaraz are injured and we haven’t had the full eleven (bar Moses) all fit as once since the start of the season.[/quote]
Currently injured, yes.
If starting from the premise ‘be difficult to beat’, also correct say that first up against Chelsea our back 3 COULD and SHOULD have been Figueroa, Caldwell and Alcaraz(sub – Ramis), Jones substitution for Beausejour.
We haven’t always helped ourselves (Sunderland, another example – same front 3 as Fulham – no Miyaichi, or Bosselli (opportunity to perform))
‘Revert to same 11’, refers, I think to the Everton game, Saturday (i.e. looking forward …after all, what is done, is done)
Nope.
I wasn’t shocked to see Figueroa lose his man for the goal.
nor was I considering he did the same against Duff.[/quote]
rightly /wrongly, I suppose his expectation was that ONE of Caldwell, Ramis and (Watson, i think) would take out Ruiz. As should have happened
Duff shouldn’t have even seen it.
I enjoy watching big money clubs flop, QPR,Liverpool! Well the one thing is at least QPR aren’t as crazy and spend 19 Million on Stewart Downing.The thing is …QPR are not a big (money) club.But they do certainly like to splash the cash.
Close season they reported a WAGES / SALES ration of 182% BEFORE they even went out and bought effectively a new team in the transfer window (12).
If ever a Manager deserved the sack
– saying we won’t be in this position again next year (2012/13) :lol:
– being reckless with money
e.g.
buying his No. 1 Rob Green, then 4 weeks later Julius Caesar as
replacement goalie ….man-motivation skills ? :angry: financial
prudence ? :silly:
ranke bad buys / has beens on big bucks (Bosingwa, etc.)– for his team’s consistent under-performance
then its HUGHES.
Tony Fernandez, potentially the modern day PETER RIDSDALE
QPR, potentially the Leeds Utd of old (Ridsdlae, O’Leary)
Neil Warnock must be p*ssing himself at the moment !! :P
Lose again,spent a fortune and cannot buy a win 1st casualty of the season-…..HUGHES /would be funny ! :cheer: :cheer:
Can’t see Fernandez making do with for too long
Why do we not revert to the same 11 (bar Moses) that got us our best run of form? I would bench Ramis and Kone (too lazy to play up front on his own) and go back to the players and formation that finished the season in style. The Japanese lad may be best to replace Moses but other than that position the rest pick themselves. Boselli may look decent against reserve teams in the League cup but has looked woeful in the premier league at times and you can’t look past Di Santo as the number one forward surely.goodpost
Agreed
Particularly in defence (‘clean sheet /difficult to beat’) .Start from there … currently shipping 2 goals a game.
Even the best would struggle to score 3
How to alienate your squad…..make promises you don’t keep….Well done Martinez! :(
I don’t need to check a results service. If Yicktick has bothered his dull St Helens arse to post, we must have lost ;)[/quote]
Griff you know how it goes on here ,bad manager decisions ,Jordi Gomez yadda yadda ,Martinez out ,and all that shite :silly:
You would think some of these men would want a return to the pre prem days :ohmy:[/quote]
I don’t see anyone saying bad manager. Bad decisions from Martinez and the ref…..yes.
I am not quite sure what you expect after a really poor performance. You can’t just lick arse for the sake of it. If they have been bad then just say it. Go on i dare ya :P :P ;)
Nothing can be praised out of that game, Another one that needs to be wrote off though im afraid but how long can that go on for again. I want to see progression.[/quote]
Indeed.
Taking a moment for a recap :
Last 10 2011/12: Won 7/10 (only 2 defeats both in 90th, Chelsea /Fulham)
(incl. Manure, Arsenal, Lpool, Newcastle, Chelsea)First 6 2012/13: Lost 4/6 (almost 5, .. Al Habsi wonder save vs. Stoke)
With essentially the same personnel (plus ‘reinforcements’).
Not expecting to be TOP 2, but think we all agree we’d have expected to be in a much healthier position (points and performance-wise).
Already last year, better things were expected on the back of 2010/11 survival (N’Zogbia inspired, as someone made the point). Well last year was much more a team effort, and consistent over 3 months.
What’s changed ?? …..
Somebdy will get Jordi’s place now for the next few games :ohmy:At least something positive !
Other:
– hopefully, Alcaraz back for Everton
– 30 mins Di Santo today
– only the one goal conceded (!)Martinez talks (post WHU) about competition, but does FA – same team as last week bar McArthur /Watson. Don’t understand why the same 3 up front started today (notably, Gomez … why not Bosselli (worthy of chance) OR Miyaichi (pace, something different).
Food for thought (early days,i appreciate) : already SIX POINTS worse off than last season (for same fixtures). Next up, Everton – bang in form …
and encourage in the above case should be encourageD ;)
look SW, sh*t happens (get out the perfect world …)
e.g. Chelsea 2nd goal… Figueroa misses tackle, Hazard passes him by, on to Ramis last man standing and whoops … fooking awful attempt to play the ball, sorry MAN (textbook challenge), and down he goes (Hazard that it is) PENALTY
Eh volia !!
Back 3 – Alcaraz, Caldwell and Figueroa (personal opinion)
UNTIL such time as Caldwell reverts to his bad old ways of early 2011/12 or Ramis proves himself to be worth the money, and marked improvement on status-quo
Right, if we’re playing a game of Highlight The Typos, then it’s my turn:
get out the perfect world (the word ‘of’ has been omitted)
Hazard that it is (You mean ‘Hazard that is’)
Eh volia !! (The phrase you are looking for is ‘et voila’);) x3
I’m not actually sure what ‘sh*t happens’ means, and or what this perfect world you are referring to implies?
On second thoughts, you’re right; if it was a perfect world, you wouldn’t post in annoying report form and wouldn’t use so many CAPITALISED words.
Also in a perfect world, you’d be aware that people with stronger right feet often play on the left hand side of a back two or three, and you’d see that Ramis’ poor tackle on Hazard was most likely down to over enthusiasm to make amends for his previous mistake or was down to poor judgement rather than a case of him trying to tackle with his ‘non-tackling leg’.
I appreciate the fact you don’t rate Ramis, and you’re entitled to your opinion. Personally I think he looks decent, but that’s my opinion. But, whenever you claim that he is being played on the wrong side of the back three because/or he has no left foot, I will respond in a similar vein to my previous posts.
Over and out; onto another thread.[/quote]
Respond as you like …
Lets just say, Ramis hasn’t played on LHS of back 3, since Chelsea. Nor was he moved out there when Beausejour (Figueroa to LWB, Lopez DEF)) went off against Stoke (Jones on, Beausejour replacement). Might tell you something …
Over-enthusiasm (you are having a laugh)???! If anything I would say quite the reverse; the ease with which the likes of Hazard, Oscar and Jerome have gone by him, with which he was dispossessed at Utd and /or unable /unwilling to put in a challenge in the box (2nd, 3rd goals respectively) ….
Not that I don’t rate Ramis per se, more that I ain’t convinced by what I’ve seen to date. Don’t think the majority are, press included.
Stand corrected 3x above, …. goodpost Du kannst !
One swallow and all that … jury out on his defensive rigour, even Salford Latic no longer totally convinced if he understand his recent post (if Ramis doesn’t make it as a centre back, then attack, etc.)
Granted a good goal last night, but still very much in the RED for me,
lets see, eh … ??Alcaraz, Figueroa + Caldwell / Ramis for me at Sunderland.
It’s nothing to do with swallows (or Amazons for that matter), it a comment on how he reputedly has no left foot but still managed to rattle one in with his left foot/wand/peg from twenty five yards out.
As I’ve said before, if he’s playing as a centre half his foot preference has no bearing on which side of the three he should be playing as he’s not required to go haring up the wing and cross the ball in. Or, by the same token, the left sided centre half should be left footed, the right sided should be right footed, and the central man should be proficient with both feet.
I didn’t go the game on Tuesday, but I’ve been informed that Ramis was solid – and you can’t ask for much more than that.[/quote]
Look, for me jury still out on Ramis (value for money).
If we spend 4M EUR (significant sum for Latics), then I anticipate an improvement on the status-quo (Caldwell, Alcaraz, Figueroa). I have YET to see it.
Our PL defensive record to date (min 2 goals shipped every game bar Southampton – got lucky – does not provide any comfort to support the argument.
As regards being left-sided, right-sided etc., then take by way of example the Valencia /Johnson incident last weekend leading to Utd penalty /winner (Pool / Utd).
Let’s just say in that situation I’d much rather have a natural left-footer (e.g. Figeuroa) attempting to challenge on his ‘natural side’) than I would a right-footer (Johnson, Ramis) making a desperate lunge and attempt to tackle with this right (e.g. Hazard /Ramis, Chelsea).
Has Johnson not scored the odd goal with his left foot (some good uns as well), cutting in from the right ??
Can you imagine Ramis having done the reverse / opposite – move from left, and shoot with right ? Sorry, I can’t. He ain’t a left-footer and
at the moment, it ain’t no Usain Bolt either. Not saying that Caldwell and Alcaraz are, then again they came much more cheaply.As regards Ramis / A N Other being solid at West Ham, let’s see how we fare against 1st 11 PL opposition.[/quote]
With all due respect, what the fook are you going on about?
For starters, Johnson is a full back. You do know the difference between a full back and a centre half don’t you?
For avoidance of doubt, I’ll clarify it for you: a full back plays on the wing and is encourage to defend and also advance along his wing. A centre half plays in the centre of the pitch and therefore tends to pass the ball from the centre of the pitch. He doesn’t ‘cut in’, because he is already ‘in’.
If Ramis has to challenge the winger it’s because his wing-back is out of position and he is coming from his centre half position – not tracking the winger down the touchline. It happens week-in, week-out for every team in the Premier League, and because of the high percentage of right footers to left footers, nine times out of ten the centre half helping out on the left is right footed.[/quote]
and encourage in the above case should be encourageD ;)
look SW, sh*t happens (get out the perfect world …)
e.g. Chelsea 2nd goal… Figueroa misses tackle, Hazard passes him by, on to Ramis last man standing and whoops … fooking awful attempt to play the ball, sorry MAN (textbook challenge), and down he goes (Hazard that it is) PENALTY
Eh volia !!
Back 3 – Alcaraz, Caldwell and Figueroa (personal opinion)
UNTIL such time as Caldwell reverts to his bad old ways of early 2011/12 or Ramis proves himself to be worth the money, and marked improvement on status-quo
One swallow and all that … jury out on his defensive rigour, even Salford Latic no longer totally convinced if he understand his recent post (if Ramis doesn’t make it as a centre back, then attack, etc.)
Granted a good goal last night, but still very much in the RED for me,
lets see, eh … ??Alcaraz, Figueroa + Caldwell / Ramis for me at Sunderland.
It’s nothing to do with swallows (or Amazons for that matter), it a comment on how he reputedly has no left foot but still managed to rattle one in with his left foot/wand/peg from twenty five yards out.
As I’ve said before, if he’s playing as a centre half his foot preference has no bearing on which side of the three he should be playing as he’s not required to go haring up the wing and cross the ball in. Or, by the same token, the left sided centre half should be left footed, the right sided should be right footed, and the central man should be proficient with both feet.
I didn’t go the game on Tuesday, but I’ve been informed that Ramis was solid – and you can’t ask for much more than that.[/quote]
Look, for me jury still out on Ramis (value for money).
If we spend 4M EUR (significant sum for Latics), then I anticipate an improvement on the status-quo (Caldwell, Alcaraz, Figueroa). I have YET to see it.
Our PL defensive record to date (min 2 goals shipped every game bar Southampton – got lucky – does not provide any comfort to support the argument.
As regards being left-sided, right-sided etc., then take by way of example the Valencia /Johnson incident last weekend leading to Utd penalty /winner (Pool / Utd).
Let’s just say in that situation I’d much rather have a natural left-footer (e.g. Figeuroa) attempting to challenge on his ‘natural side’) than I would a right-footer (Johnson, Ramis) making a desperate lunge and attempt to tackle with this right (e.g. Hazard /Ramis, Chelsea).
Has Johnson not scored the odd goal with his left foot (some good uns as well), cutting in from the right ??
Can you imagine Ramis having done the reverse / opposite – move from left, and shoot with right ? Sorry, I can’t. He ain’t a left-footer and
at the moment, it ain’t no Usain Bolt either. Not saying that Caldwell and Alcaraz are, then again they came much more cheaply.As regards Ramis / A N Other being solid at West Ham, let’s see how we fare against 1st 11 PL opposition.
