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Bickymon, shouldn’t the onus also be on scoring goals as well as not conceding?
The onus is on not to concede. As the game kicks off both teams have a point so have something to protect. It has been argued that no points should be awarded for a nil-nil draw which would most definitely put the onus on teams to attack and go for goals rather than “parking the bus”.
It amazes me why people spout so much venom at the multi billionaire Trump, when in reality they know nothing about him; other than the 10 mins of media drivel they have seen on TV. But hey, people are like that; too quick to judge instead of taking time to reach a fair and reasonable opinion.
You don’t think he was lying to get elected do you?
Maybe Nigel should answer that one.[/quote]He’s a politician ffs, you are surely not that naive to expect any of them to be honest, especially prior to being elected??[/quote]
There’s being economical with the truth and then there’s downright blatant lies. It would appear many Americans have voted him in based upon the things he’s said he would do if he became President.
Fraudulent really just like the Brexiteers campaign.[/quote]
There you go again Sammy. Insinuating that I (and the majority) voted leave because of lies. What lies? What lies did I vote for?
You can’t keep saying that without backing it up. (Don’t mention the bus)[/quote]
Are you being deliberately evasive?
I told you exactly where to go for a comprehensive review of the misinformation – lies if you like – put out by the Leave campaign.Neither have I insinuated that you voted leave because of lies but I’m sure plenty did.
And why do you keep saying don’t mention the bus, clearly the most obvious example of the misinformation put about? Are you saying that wasn’t deliberately misleading?
It amazes me why people spout so much venom at the multi billionaire Trump, when in reality they know nothing about him; other than the 10 mins of media drivel they have seen on TV. But hey, people are like that; too quick to judge instead of taking time to reach a fair and reasonable opinion.
You don’t think he was lying to get elected do you?
Maybe Nigel should answer that one.[/quote]He’s a politician ffs, you are surely not that naive to expect any of them to be honest, especially prior to being elected??[/quote]
There’s being economical with the truth and then there’s downright blatant lies. It would appear many Americans have voted him in based upon the things he’s said he would do if he became President.
Fraudulent really just like the Brexiteers campaign.
It amazes me why people spout so much venom at the multi billionaire Trump, when in reality they know nothing about him; other than the 10 mins of media drivel they have seen on TV. But hey, people are like that; too quick to judge instead of taking time to reach a fair and reasonable opinion.You don’t think he was lying to get elected do you?
Maybe Nigel should answer that one.Brexit revisited, waking up this morning expecting that the power mad dodgy bint was going to walk the US election only to find the woolly headed gobshite is actually in a good position. Much like the Brexit night.The bid difference being Donald can be ditched in four years time.
Sam there were lies from all sides. There are always lies and embalishments and exaggerations when politicians are involved. As you know there were a lot of other complex issue involved. I abhor racism and any manipulation of immigration issues that can be contrived into racism. My own out vote came because the EU is just the final cap on the head of a big drain that leaches public money. Parish, Borough, County, National and then the Euro all with their own expensive burecrats leaching money. Immigrants are needed. We need workers in the UK. There are jobs to fill and they fill them. A shame some of our own British people who complain about jobs being taken don’t do them.And for the working class people who though being out of the EU would not impact on their rights there’s this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-workers-rights-take-over-firms-a7403051.html
No doubt the will of the people will prevail, especially those one and a quarter million who took it upon themselves to vote for the one and only time in their lives to unleash a racist and xenophobic influence on an issue they were totally clueless about; the same people who will be first to bleat when they discover we must still pay a significant sum into a system we want and need to be part of and that nasty free-loading foreigners are still being allowed into the country.
Bloody hell Sam, what do you want man? Take the vote away from Working class people in the North of England.
Racist and xenophobic is a bit strong. Come on if we go down those lines we probably have sixty million people in the country who could not put their hands up if they have never uttered one word that is either racist or xenophobic.
Please have a little more respect for working people.[/quote]Which is why the decision should never have been put to the country. Ignorance of a complex issue together with lies and confusion meant that when it came to the vote people’s prejudices, intended or not, kicked in. Prejudices which weren’t exclusive to the working class either.[/quote]
I read a lot about the leave campaign being “based on lies”.
What lies are we talking about? Please don’t mention the bus. That had zero impact on my decision.[/quote]
I previously posted an assessment by Professor Michael Dougan of Liverpool University on the decision to leave the EU where he describes the Leave campaign as “one of the most dishonest campaigns this country has ever seen”.
It can be viewed on You Tube if you wish to take a look.The bus may not have influenced your decision. The same cannot be said for everyone who voted leave.
I voted to Remain through clenched teeth. For all that is wrong with the EU it was in my opinion the lesser of the two evils.
No doubt the will of the people will prevail, especially those one and a quarter million who took it upon themselves to vote for the one and only time in their lives to unleash a racist and xenophobic influence on an issue they were totally clueless about; the same people who will be first to bleat when they discover we must still pay a significant sum into a system we want and need to be part of and that nasty free-loading foreigners are still being allowed into the country.
Bloody hell Sam, what do you want man? Take the vote away from Working class people in the North of England.
Racist and xenophobic is a bit strong. Come on if we go down those lines we probably have sixty million people in the country who could not put their hands up if they have never uttered one word that is either racist or xenophobic.
Please have a little more respect for working people.[/quote]Which is why the decision should never have been put to the country. Ignorance of a complex issue together with lies and confusion meant that when it came to the vote people’s prejudices, intended or not, kicked in. Prejudices which weren’t exclusive to the working class either.
Have I missed something? What statue is this?I noticed some work going on outside main reception on Saturday but didn’t think much of it.
Anybody care to enlighten me?
It’s a statue of Dave on crutches I believe.
Will and Yanic not starting shows exactly why WJ needs a clear out and bring his own guys in. We cannot begin to see what changes he makes on the field until he gets to know everyone. It also showed yesterday that Barrow needs a new position at the club.Are you suggesting that the non-inclusion of Grigg and Wildschut was the reason we lost yesterday? Neither have impressed this season. The game was lost by rank bad defending.
I suppose we need someone to blame even if that same someone oversaw our first away win last week. Assuming of course he has been totally responsible for team selection.
Just had a stroll down to Euxton to see if anything was going on. Not a sign of anyone. No extra training. Nothing at all.It seems I owe you an apology donny for some of my previous responses. Get well soon.
No doubt the will of the people will prevail, especially those one and a quarter million who took it upon themselves to vote for the one and only time in their lives to unleash a racist and xenophobic influence on an issue they were totally clueless about; the same people who will be first to bleat when they discover we must still pay a significant sum into a system we want and need to be part of and that nasty free-loading foreigners are still being allowed into the country.
British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.
Not on football shirts which is a very recent thing.
Wearing a poppy should be a personal choice.
As a football player it appears you must opt out of wearing one rather than opting in.[/quote]Point in trying to make Sammy and your correct about it being personal choice is that FIFA have made an almighty cock up on this by allowing the poppy to be on the black armband yet now after all the fallout from the corruption scandal say it is not allowed. Secondly after it has been obviously pointed out to FIFA re the FAI wearing the Easter Rising shirt they have decided to look at it now when it happened back in March. It smacks of FIFA wanting to put the FA in their place which is not right for those who want to wear the poppy for their own reasons.[/quote]
At the risk of appearing to defend FIFA I really don’t think it’s anything to do with them putting the FA in their place.
There are different people in charge at FIFA now and I believe they have made the decision without any reference to what has gone before and maybe they believe the previous decision was wrong. I don’t think they knew anything about the FAI thing until now and that’s why it’s being investigated.The use of the poppy can certainly be regarded as a political symbol, even by some citizens within our own country.
British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.Not on football shirts which is a very recent thing.
Wearing a poppy should be a personal choice.
As a football player it appears you must opt out of wearing one rather than opting in.Nope. It honestly doesn’t bother me. I wear one and so do my family. Outside of that it is each to their own as to whether they choose to wear one and if like James McClean they have a reason not too then that is their choiceAnd that’s the whole issue here Egg. It’s no longer each to their own. The long-established minute’s silence is no longer deemed respectful enough. You have to publicly demonstrate your support and not cause offence to anyone that happens to decide you’ve not measured up to their expectations.
