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Seeing as Graham Barrow is getting the team to ‘take risks’ to score goals, and give the fans a good performance, who would definitely be in the team:
Gilks, Burn, Gilbey and Bogle as a spine I reckon, then Warnock, Morgan and Connelly at back. Morsy, Obertan and MacDonald in midfield, then whether he plays Perkins, Jackobs, Mandron or Grigg.
Thought Morsy was still banned?
Just because of who his dad is we should now look to Warnock to become more of a leader on the pitch he must pick his dads brains and like him or not Colin Wanker is one of the best in the business at this level. A word in the ear and Warnock the younger may just make a difference .
Has to be a wind up surely?
On the subject of Warnock, is it just me or has his form dipped over the last month or so. The negativity of the rest of the squad seems to be getting to him and he can’t turn it around.[/quote]
I don’t think it is a wind up :blink:I agree with you on Warnock though. His form has dipped. But as you say, that could be down to the negativity.
Barrow seems to be making all the right noises in the press today though – saying you need to be in the box to score, you can’t score from the halfway line and that he knows what pleases Wiganers and he’ll be drilling that into the players before Saturday.
Sounds very much to me like he’s been a frustrated bystander.
So your saying the board have put a fella in charge of first team affairs AGAIN because he knows people and is liked? More likely is he has got the job because he is second in line as in assistant manager. I’m sure the fans would be thrilled to know he is in charge and not a tactical guru as you say.I think that’s pretty much the long and short of it unfortunately!
All those moaning that we should play 442, press more, be more direct, and play with wingers are the same ones who have been having tantrums on Twitter about Barrow getting the job, when in reality, they’re more likely to see that under Barrow than any other manager we’ve had in recent years.
He’s been a manager at numerous clubs, and knows the squad inside out, but he’s admitted he’s old school – so I think it’ll be a case of him geeing them up and getting them to fight rather than any tactical masterclass.
I also very much doubt he’ll be given the job or will even want it if we do somehow manage to stay up.
We shall see over the next few weeks how good Barrow is, If he turns it round ill be the first to eat humble pie but I wont be holding my breath. He should have gone when Bobby did then just maybe we wouldn’t be searching for a sixth manager since RM left.Under Martinez Barrow was in charge of the Development Squad. Jones was Martinez’s Assistant Manager and Dennis Lawrence was First Team Coach.
So essentially, Barrow had f-all to do with the first team’s tactics.
And I suspect he’s had little to do with any of the recruitment, team selection or tactics since.
As someone said earlier, Martinez, Coyle, Rosler, Mackay, Caldwell and Joyce have all had contradicting styles, so if it was Barrow pulling the strings, it would mean he’s been changing his mind completely on tactics every time a new manager comes in!
From what I gather, he’s been kept on by previous managers because his knowledge of the game and his contacts have been priceless, and he’s popular with the players. I wouldn’t think for a second that he’s been used as a tactical guru!
In fact, from comments in his press conference before the Birmingham game (when he was saying he might be considered old school by some people, but some things never change), it suggested to me that his advice has been ignored if anything.
I think he will confound his critics by adopting plan B, revert to 3-4-3 system, have a fantastic run-in playing “tippy-tappy” football by beating the likes of Newcastle, Brighton and Reading away thereby avoiding relegation when everyone else thought we were doomed.And I bet we show great style and phenomenal character
That is what GB is asking our midfield to do tonight. Fair comment and it’s only taken him two matches to say this.
Shame that the midfield didn’t do this in August.
Let’s hope he uses the engines from our fleet and not the ones that other clubs have discarded and sent to us to tick over or have their spark plugs changed.The ‘discarded’ ones are the players we bought from clubs who didn’t want to keep them!
Whelan ‘Stopped putting his personal fortune in’ around 2008…..He put PL money and Sky tv money in…..
Whelan has taken out far more than he ever put in.
PL money + tv money + player sales between 2006 and 2013 was over £500 MILLION QUID.
Whelan has screwed us over.
I honestly didn’t think there were still people around who believed this.
In the real world, the turnover between 2006 and 2013 was £359m (that’s all TV and PL money plus net profit from player sales. Google it. You’ll find all the financial statements online)
Salaries alone have totaled £320m in that time.
So that’s £4.8m per season for all the other expenses occurred in running a football club.
Plus the fact that Whelan has written off much of the debt that stood at around £78m by 2010.
To say Whelan has been fleecing the club is ludicrous.
You in WS5 Sammy ?
I too saw the bloke screaming at the directors box and pointing at Joyce, screaming for him to be sacked …..apoplectic probably covers it , I thought he was about to
Have a ‘funny turn’Yes. His seat is not far in front of mine. I got the full frontal view. I though he was about to explode.
And they say there’s no passion in the West Stand….![/quote]
That wasn’t the Jimmy Savile lookalike was it?A couple of rows behind me and going bright red in the face.
Statement from clubhttps://twitter.com/PKendrickWIG/status/837604146727505920/photo/1
My money’s on him experiencing a severely dropped bollock.
Martinez helped us just to survive, then just happened to be manager when we won the FA Cup.
Jewell played football how it should be played, knew how to motivate a team, and made a brown leather jacket actually look cool.Martinez helped us just to survive three times, then just happened to be manager when we finally beat Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea, and battered Newcastle 4-0 at home in what I regard as the finest display of football from a Wigan team that I’ve ever seen.
Jewell on the other hand played football how it should be played, apart from when he deliberately set up to draw at Anfield – explaining ‘If we had gone to Liverpool and tried to attack and lost 4-0 or 5-0 then I would be kicking myself’
And then, when he publicly stated that he wrote off games against the top four teams.
And he was so adept at motivating a team that he was relegated with Derby on a record low Premier League points tally after failing to win a single game, and sacked after a half a season at Ipswich after he managed only one win.
But I agree: his jacket was nice. ;)
In your managerial career, I am pretty sure than you would have regular one to one’s with your staff and also present them with opportunity to also give you feedback. Well, for whatever reason, Mr Joyce has just ducked his one to one with the Latics fan base and denied them the opportunity. Frankly, it’s either piss poor or stinks; so I can understand the increasing level of discontent. Much more respect if you face the baying mob head on ( in my managerial experience. Even if your big toe is in plaster ).Gents.
The fans aren’t Joyce’s staff. The players are his staff. So his one-to-ones should be with them.
The fans are his customers, and most businesses encourage feedback from their customers via email to their Customer Services department, or on forums, Trip Advisor etc.
Whilst I don’t agree with booing at the match – because it must be morale sapping for the players as they don’t know if it’s them or the managers being booed, I can understand that people want to take out their frustration and want people at the club to hear them, so I reckon welcoming individuals’ feedback would be a step in the right direction.
And whilst fan forums with the manager are a good idea, as are Fan Liaison Officers, and Paul Kendrick (etc) asking for questions to take into Press Conferences, with all of those, not everyone gets to ask their question or is willing to do so in public.
So, here’s an idea to run by you:
How about some sort of official interactive Wigan Athletic forum?
Fans can be encouraged to ask questions in private on any subject – and are guaranteed a response with X amount of days, as is the case if you were complaining to a company’s customer service department. (Obviously if it’s just offensive and doesn’t warrant a response, they’ll be told so by email) Then each week the club could publish a list of anonymous questions and their answers.
You could also have ratings and private feedback per game, so if someone at the club wants to gauge fan reaction after a particular result, they don’t have to try and trawl through Facebook, unofficial forums or Twitter.
Pages like Cockney Latic would still be there for debate and interaction with other supporters. This club forum would be purely for direct feedback to the club.
What do you reckon?
http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/latics/joyce-disappointed-with-booing-1-8410015You don’t get booed for nothing, end it or mend it, i’ll tell you what end it, piss off Yootha!
Oh, I don’t know about that….it doesn’t take much at Wigan!
Already relegated to bench warmer.
He wont care.
He’s gone from being a bench warmer at a bottom 3 side to a bench warmer at a top 6 side. He can also spend his time on the bench at Norwich thinking about what to do with the big signing-on fee and pay rise he received.[/quote]
He will care. And I’m sure he’ll care massively.He left Middlesbrough – who were on their way to getting promoted to the Premier League – because he wasn’t getting a game, and dropped down a division to join us.
