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At the risk of getting slated, Breckin, De Vos and McCulloch were all great headers of the ball, but in terms of always getting a head to the ball, very few ever beat Heskey in the air. Not always accurate, but nine times out of ten, his head was first to it.
And more controversially, Chimbonda had the leap of a much taller man and was rarely beaten in the air.
No offence taken!
I sincerely hope some of these people who still spout drivel on here are wind-ups, or electroconvulsive therapy may have to be adopted to get the point home.
It’s all fine and well people saying ‘sack the board’, but who on earth is going to step in and take over.In all honesty, my eyes were opened with that finance thing that someone (I’m sorry I forget who) posted on here last week. Until then, I had been full of criticism for Whelan, calling him a tight so and so for not spending money on players.
However as it transpires that our clubs outgoings are something like 42 million, and our incomings are around 38 million, it doesn’t actually leave us with a lot to play with, does it?
Add the fact that our debts have been offset by loans arranged between Whelan and Barclays bank, and it really madce me think a lot differently, and see what position we are in. Other clubs such as Blackburn, are in the same boat. They sold Santa Cruz, and we sold Valencia. And neither of us are loaded from it. A sad indictment on todays game? It’s a sad indictmant of the world in general, as it happens.After learning this, I now get the picture. Without Whelan sorting these loans out, we’d be a lot worse off. In trouble, most likely. So I think people need to look further into it, before saying ‘sack the board’.
I discussed it with some chaps who sit near me on Saturday, and they were shocked, but came around to the same way of thinking, which is there is no better person to step in and take over, as it happens.
I will take credit for that, and doff my cap modestly.
In the poll we did recently on site it was JewellBut Jay, that’s because an awful lot of them only have Jewell as their earliest point of reference.
I’ll be honest, I actually felt bored with the Premiership after about the first 4 months of it. No use me bulling, that’s honestly how I have felt.
I don’t know what it is, I really don’t.But, and there IS a but.
Last Saturday I took in Skem Utd V Harrogate Railway Athletic. It was a good craic, Skem won 4-3, after being 2-0 down, before Harrogate’s keeper saw red. Some good football, and a couple of the goals were belters, they looked so good because the nets were ‘stantioned’ on poles, ‘Premeirship style’.
Before the game, the players did the old line up and shake hands thing, like we see every week. And there you have it. EVERY other league looks up to the Premiership as a role model. Ask any of them players where they’d prefer to play, and each one would say “The Premiership”.As a one off day out, or an every-now-and-again thing, it was good. £7.50 to get in, clubhouse with good pints, and not expensive, and an overall enjoyable experience.
But it made me appreciate what we get to watch.
We ARE ‘Little Wigan Athletic’. And we are upsetting the apple-cart by even daring to ‘mingle’ with the so called big-boys. And long may it continue!
Good clubhouse at Skem. The Mrs is a Skemmer (Old Skem) and all the family soirees are held there. Cheap ale ‘n all.
Attendances don’t concern me, I’m on about actual support from the fans at the stadium. Wimbledon fans made some noise and I remember playing Tranmere, Crewe, Nob End, Blackpool etc, we made a racket. But recently, the excitment, atmosphere, expectation etc has gone and we are quite frankly sad as muck. I’ve never been to a Premiership ground where the fans are as bad as us, just one question and this will answer wether we are indeed the worst set of fans to grace Englands top flight:
When was the last time you heard chanting of ‘Wigan, Wigan…’ or the chanting of ‘We Love You Wigan?’ If it was in the last 12 months, were not the worst. Awaiting responses.It seams to me you are a little bit uneducated with regard to Latics fans, but I am here to help. We love our club, so when things are looking bleak it affects the fans. Were not like other clubs by way of turning up just for a good day out, we turn up because were desperate to see the club were all so proud of put up a good fight. When that doesnt happen, the fans become dejected and I for one am proud that after a match which we were poor I go home and feel like sh*t for the weekend.
We have seen so much success over the last few years, we are desperate for that to continue. Interesting you mentioning about the worst premiership fans though, so I have been doing a little investigating and have left some attachments for you to look at. Rather than the worst fans, to me these guys look 100% the best. Tell me if you think theyre any good or you think the support is poor –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLvo1S-Nz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMPPileHndE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_d39WArUgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXc3VUOsWQII will meet up with you you pri**, im 36 and have watched Wigan since 1970. More importantly than that as far as your concerned, im 6”5, built like a brick sh*t house and take offence when our support is questioned.
Hows tonight grab ya? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: [/quote]Those clips prove nothing.
The two at home are supporters taunting opposing supporters (which is not getting behind the team), and the other two are away games (which are always a better atmosphere anyway) – one being the Carling Cup Semi, and the other being the must-win last game of the season versus Sheff U. If you can’t get decent support at these games, there’s something hopelessly wrong.
In my opinion, the Geordies are the worst fans ever in the Prem due to their ridiculously high expectations, and their ability to turn on their managers and players at the drop of a hat (Oversized, black and white hat). Although saying that, judging by some of the recent posts on here, and the boos that have been heard around the ground, we aren’t a million miles away.
If the level of greatness is based purely on singing, couldn’t we get a male-voice choir in for matches? Then we’d be the best by miles.
Oh, and in answer to other questions posted on this thread: 39, 1978 (but regularly from 1982 until 1987, then irregularly between then and 1993, then regularly again…) 6’3”, side of a barn door.
Yes, that Oldham fan has a great memory.
Roberts joined the following season, and Kavanagh the season after that.
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The red robin is the closet bus stop to the ground….. :roll: :roll: :roll: [/quote]Closet bus stop? Is that where Morris Lindsay gets on ‘his bus’?!
My error. Chris Ronnie got the boot from JJB earlier this year.
There goes the conspiracy theory then.
Ahh see i and other people were all under the idea that the Trust was set up primarily for the football club with 30mil and that its plan was every year it would make a small profit which could be spent on charitable donations.Thats very interesting. Apart from the chris ronnie bit!
But wouldn’t that be irony at its finest?!
CEO of the company Whelan founded buys the club he used to play for.
Or maybe it’s more than mere coincidence. (Let the conspiracy theories begin…)Youd be surprised how attractive to businessmen a club like wigan would be. Especially if we clear the debts then are allowed again under someone else to run those debts back up, well i say debts but we all know that they are directors loans.As for the lindsay scenario i dont think hed be able to run it down so badly however it wouldnt surprise me if he came out with “taking the club down to a level that it could better sustain itself at”
Again Faz, I said we’d be a more attractive proposition if we cleared the debt.
With debt, we are not attractive.
There are not that many rich men around who want to buy a football club, and there are more clubs than there are buyers.
Yeah but Standish from what i understand the jack walker trust was set up on the condition that the club made a small profit not taking money from the fund every year hence why they never make big money signings. Have no star players in terms of wages and contracts and sell their top players without replacing them year after year.From people that ive just spoke to regarding them being for sale their understanding is that the people in charge of the trust have made bad financial desicions over the past year which has affected the funds available.
Not the football clubs fault but the people running it and the financial climate at the moment.
Faz, that’s what I was touching on.
Have a read of this.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 … tworkfront
Unless there’s someone saying ‘Hang on, the money from that trust isn’t even paying the wage bills anymore, we’ll have to top up the payments to the club’ there will always be shortfall year on year unless the increase in players’ salaries falls in line with inflation.
With Blackburn, £30 million was set aside. This is now small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
It’s not the club’s fault, or the trustees – it’s the investors of other clubs inflating the transfer market and wage expectations.
But, who in their right mind would buy Wigan at present? We’re not exactly the average billionaire’s dream play thing?
If the debt gets erased, then yes, we are a more attractive proposition, but even then, I can’t imagine a stream of Rolls Royces with Arabic number plates vying for a parking space outside the stadium.
That may even be Whelan’s plan. Get the club debt free, then sell. If that is his plan, I would openly applaud the man.
We are probably the smallest club to ever compete in the Premier League (13000 home fans for a game against Manchester United, 11000 season ticket holders paying 250quid???) and when we got here , 99% of us thought we would do what loads of others have done and stick around for a year before going down.Our aim has always been and as far as I can see always will be staying up. The anti Whelan brigade saying he should go are living in a dream world because without him, or someone else like him anyway, putting money in every year we would be in a similar position to Leeds or Southampton…but with an average gate of about 8000.
We can’t build something long term in the Premier League because we can’t afford to. We can’t offer the likes of Palacios and Valencia and Cattermole what they can get elsewhere, and to be honest if by doing so it puts the future of the club at risk then I’d rather we didn’t.
Its ok saying we have all this money to spend…I’m afraid we don’t. The sales of the players over the past 6 months should have made serious in roads into the 60 million debt we have but then we have to keep reinvesting in the squad so its catch 22. Forget the Sky money in terms of a profit because its goes straight against the 38 million wage bill we are carrying.
Simple question is; how long can a club go on losing money every year??
To me it looks like the board, or Whelan alone, has sat down and looked at things and thought we have to change the way we are operating because long term it’s not sustainable and to my mind that’s the reason Steve Bruce left. We now have a young manager who appears to want to be here long term, hopefully Whelan will stick with him so let’s give him time to build something.
I’ve been posting similar for weeks Springfield, but to no avail. There is still the school of thought present on here that maintain that Whelan pockets all the money received from transfers, and his miserly ways will be the downfall of this club.
No matter what you say, there is a minority that will disregard the facts because they’ve interpreted something they read in The Sun.
