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Doesn’t catch many does he?
To see him do that you’ll need to watch the ‘Richard O’Donnell catches 2014-2105’ Youtube clip.
Boyce has been earning around £1 million in the Premier League.
Let’s say he had a 50% pay cut for relegation to the Championship, then another 50% to League One – that’s still £250,000.
The average salary for League One is £70,000
So Boyce would be taking up the allocated funds set aside for 3 other players, and the chances are he’d struggle get a game.
I suspect it has f’ck all to do with Caldwell and his relationship, but everything to do the club being sensible and not throwing precious money at sentiment.
Ok lets change the figures around and say whatever figures I want to pluck out of thin air and I win FFS! :cheer: If £70k is an average it doesn’t mean all the players in that division are earning it :lol:[/quote]
The average salary of a Premier League player is just over £1m.Boyce was our longest serving player, and club captain, so my guess is he’d have been on more than £1 million – but what’s a couple of hundred thousand pounds here and there between friends?
And I doubt the wage cut was anywhere near 50% for either of the relegations – but again, what’s a couple of hundred thousand pounds… (etc)
But you’re right. I plucked those figures completely out of the air and jigged them around just to prove you wrong.
And again, you’re quite right, an average of £70k means some people will earn more, some will earn less.
So why should one of the people earning three times more than the average be a 36 year old defender who’ll struggle to get in the Wigan team?
Boyce has been earning around £1 million in the Premier League.
Let’s say he had a 50% pay cut for relegation to the Championship, then another 50% to League One – that’s still £250,000.
The average salary for League One is £70,000
So Boyce would be taking up the allocated funds set aside for 3 other players, and the chances are he’d struggle get a game.
I suspect it has f’ck all to do with Caldwell and his relationship, but everything to do the club being sensible and not throwing precious money at sentiment.
I presume both want international football, and they aren’t going to get that by playing in the 3rd division.
Same goes for McClean and possibly Bong.
I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?
I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?[/quote]
I think you’ve just backed my case to the hilt there Sammy, thanks very much. :)[/quote]
I don’t read it that way at all, John.
JJ will have advised DW that it was unwise to say anything, and that he should leave all Press discussions to the PR team.
If DW chooses to ignore that advice, as he did, then that’s hos decision. It’s not JJ’s role to decide that. He can purely advise.
His role is to make sure that all operational matters on a day-to-day basis run smoothly.[/quote]
Likewise the appointment of a manager that JJ et al advised would be a bad idea as he carried too much baggage, would be a PR disaster, etc. etc.Mate of mine North of the border said Scott McDonald thrives off chances like this clip of direct football. Not sure whether he will be as effective up front on his own relying on some very patient possession orientated build up play?Yes he WAS a good player, in 2008!!
Not sure how good he is these days. Hardly tore up trees at either Middlesbrough or Milwall.
The lads that would probably have kept us up with games to spare are coming back.Interesting paragraph in this article:
“A number of players were offloaded midway through last term to make way for Malky Mackay’s raft of January signings.”
That strikes me as a slightly different tone to “Wigan are signing players who will fight for the shirt to get us out of this“
Who made the ‘fight for the shirt quote’? Paul Kendrick?
Investing in an academy is exactly what you need. It seemed to work for Southampton when they slipped to the 3rd division, and many of their academy kids flourished as they could be blooded in a lower league without fear of failure.Admittedly the catchment area isn’t the same and competition is fierce from higher league clubs, but the lure of actually playing first team football, rather than 4 years in the youth team and a sub appearance in the league cup, may well persuade some kids to sign up!
Spot on Mutty.
Look at Crewe and Middlesbrough for examples of how it works.
Question is, do we really need a fancy new money soaking academy? The idea of creating a production line of young players sounds easy on paper and for a small club like Latics an academy even in the Championship or Premier League would be a massive drain on resources. For example look at the number of young players that go through the systems at Manchester United Liverpool and Arsenal etc only for the clubs to bring in players for crazy money ahead of all the masses of youngsters. The exact same would occur at Latics as it does now,with dozens of youngsters churned out but with only ever one or two making it.
Bolton have a superb academy at Lostock and Blackburn up at Brockholes. Both state of the art, both all the facilities under the sun. These two are not exactly thriving are they and both ridden with debt.
Again I think the subject was just raised at taking a dig at how Latics are run and nothing else. State of the art training facilities for our squads are another thing and are essential but these probably exist or could easily be improved at Christopher Park so why is an academy so essential?What on earth are you talking about?
The whole point of an academy is to stop this happening.
Young lads enter the academy, are trained and coached, and hopefully make it into the first team and/or are sold to other clubs.
The club don’t have the money to keep buying players, so they need to farm them.
In what way is that a drain on resources?
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.No, we are not like Crewe at present. But it looks like that’s the sort of model the club are aiming to emmulate.
The reason why the club buys low and sells high is because it’s one of the club’s main income streams, but I guessed you wouldn’t see this because you think Whelan takes all the profit.
Pedant alert:
League One, not Division One :)
OCD alert. Please can you amend the title?[/quote]
You could have edited the title if you had wanted Johnny![/quote]
How? I didn’t think we mortals could edit thread titles.we have looked at ways in which we can ensure that the matchday atmosphere is improved
Why not close the West Stand and relocate everyone to the East/South which hold 14500 between them? More fans packed together would create a better atmosphere and also paint a picture of a larger crowd on Manish’s late night highlights, when the West Stand wouldn’t be shown.
It would also save on stewarding costs as I’m sure the Executive Box occupants could manage without someone showing them to their seat![/quote]
Because it’s bad enough when they allow East Standers into the West for pre-season games.Do you know for sure that’s the reason, John, or just speculation?
I’ve heard nothing about such plans, except to make a “singing section”. There are, or were, no plans to shut any particular areas.
What did the letter actually say?
It doesn’t matter what is says George , the bottom line is he can’t have the seat he has occupied since the east became allocated to home fans. If we had still been in Championship I strongly suspect he would have been able to renew.
If they want to have specific areas for singing, make the east stand a sit where you want job, that will allow people to get in early if they want to sit in the middle blocks and allow gangs of singers to get together and make a fuss. The pricing structure can be aligned accordingly.
The letter he received today was the first my lad knew about this change, which confirms that although we have been a premier league club on the field, off it we have never got beyond conference North.
I remember investing in an away season ticket with promise of best seats, blah, blah, blah, it was a load of shyte and I spent more time sat in a pokey corner of the ground with a pish poor view, whilst my mates had prime seats behind the goals having bought their tickets a few days before the match.I am coming to the conclusion that its no coincidence that our demise started when a certain Jonathon Jackson became CE. Penny pinching here and penny pinching there, a manager conveyor belt all of which he has been involved in. Mr Jackson seems to be like Graham Barrow and sneaks about under the radar, whilst the focus has been on Dave Whelan and a series of incompetent managers and players. Has the CE actually been accountable for any of this sudden slide? One big fat no is the answer!! :angry:[/quote]
Damn it, you’re right! Bring back Brenda. All is forgiven (cup of tea anyone?)
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