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I don’t accept coppers ! I tell them that if it has come to coppering up then they can keep them as they probably need them more than I do ! Any shortfalls are however added to the next clean ! :)
Talking of coppering up, do you fancy saving your pennies for this: http://www.indietracks.co.uk/
Well in Coyle’s defense, unlike Martinez, ( Think Henriquez ) he took 2 young lads on loan and in my opinion helped them massively to develop by giving them much needed playing time. 2009-2010 season saw Jack Wilshere join Bolton on loan and the following season saw Daniel Sturridge join them on loan ! Also, Coyle is not a hoof ball merchant, if anything he likes his sides to actually play football. Ironically like Martinez, he didn’t really have the players to pull it off ! He has taken a side from the Championship to the Prem and so he has the knowhow and for me would be an ideal candidate ! Sometimes we make hasty decisions based on how our hearts feel but when you let your head take over and just sit back and think for a while, things do become more lucid ! Get him signed Uncle Dave !Yes but also think Cleverley and Robles!
I’d prefer Mclaren out of him and Coyle, but I’m still hoping for Rene Meulensteen.
everton have been sniffing round McCarthy since last transfer window,and this came from a very good source,who also told me something else thats happenend today about everton selling there training ground to raise funds
You’re not serious are you Ace? Selling the training ground? So what are they going to do, book a pitch at the local Soccerdome? ;)[/quote]
The Everton selling their training ground story wasn’t exactly a scoop. It was confirmed yesterday in the Liverpool papers and websites. Sold to the council for £12, and Everton rent it back off them.If he’s on 25 a week at wigan, he’ll get 50 if he moves, more to the point it will give DW his yearly big sale and subsequent transfer kitty, all the clues are there, it happens every single summer, and relegation only makes it more likely than before.And don’t be thinking that the main players will be playing Europa, not happening, there’ll be more important things to think about.
Lee Nicholls will be a Europa League sensation. You heard it here first…
I’m still rockin’ in the free* world.even though is becoming increasingly less so!
Good on you Sammy. And long may you run
He looked out of shape though. By the end he was blowing like a hurricane.
Like an old man.[/quote]
He’s not a hardy Northerner though. Bloody Southern man.I’ve read/heard a lot of convincing arguments that suggest that ‘tika-taka’ is on the way out and the Bayern/Dortmund model is more effective. The Champions League final was certainly more entertaining with neither team content with passing the ball around the back four for several minutes. This might just be an over reaction of Bayern’s 7-0 aggregate win over Barca but I agree that each time needs a plan B. I always thought that, although we had flair players like Maloney and McManaman, most of the other players (particularly the wing backs) lacked the ability to beat a man and get behind defences, so they played the easy ball back inside and we were back to square one. Defences could set up easily and force Wigan to break them down, our only hope was give it to Maloney and hope he can whip a stepover out of the bag. I always thought we looked most dangerous on the counter attack last season when defences were out of position and we could attack them at pace.‘Tika-taka’ is a well-trodden cliché coined for the short passing game, which is not a new concept, so (in my opinion) those who are saying it’s had its day are talking out of their culo.
It’s passing and moving into space. Same as the Dutch played in the 70s, same as Barca, Dortmund, Swansea, Arsenal etc play now.
Of course tactics change, but essentially the passing and moving aspect stays the same.
There were definitely times when even the most staunch believer in pretty football must have been urging them to just get rid of it.
He was never the perfect manager but I’d say there were many more good traits then bad ones.
In my opinion, I think Martinez was trying to turn Wigan from a poorly supported, under-financed, battling but unattractive team into a more appealing proposition by playing football the ‘right way’ and honing players’ skills. Players would therefore want to come to the club to learn.
In the past, why would a player want to play for Wigan? Because they were unknown and wanted to use Wigan as a stepping stone; to get one last decent contract before retirement, or because they were a misfit and had run out of options.
Martinez was trying to turn Wigan into a club that decent young players would choose to come to above other clubs.
He was also trying to emulate the academies of Spain and Holland by getting the players to play a certain way from an early age, and thus create a farming system – bringing players through the ranks to play in the first team or be sold on, saving/making the club money in the process.
If that’s what he was trying to achieve, I can understand why he didn’t mix and match his styles as it would go completely against all he’d set out to do: if you’re trying to instil a specific playing style, you need to stick with it.
I agree that at times some of the players didn’t look good enough to play that style, but I’d hasten to add that at times when it all clicked (albeit, unregularly) they looked more than good enough.
All this suggests to me that Martinez looked upon Wigan as a project where the processes and outcomes off the pitch were more important than the results on it.
Personally, I think he’ll do well at a bigger club and I’d like someone to come to Wigan and carry on where Martinez left off – like Rogers and then Laudrup did at Swansea.
Contrary to popular belief, the club does have numerous other people who work there who make decisions regarding its finances etc.
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???
Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
Nah, Why can we not finish in the top ten in the premiership. Dave and Bob have been saying top 6 for years even when they had no intention of trying to achieve it. All about money and lying again to try and get bums on seats. That is all Dave Whelan does.
I would have been happy with relegation in 2006 just because i had experienced the Premiership but Dave Whelan said there would be a warchest, top 6 blah blah, But he just wanted 25,000 fans every week for the relegation battles so he could pocket all the revenue.[/quote]
At the risk of prompting another tirade against me, after nine years surely you honestly still don’t believe Whelan actually makes money from owning the club do you?The club’s accounts are published on the internet and it’s plain to see exactly where all the money goes.
