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Agree donny and in some instances I think we have tried to play that way. We seem to come out the blocks like Usain Bolt and end up like Gemma Collins. If Morsy, Evans or whoever is in the midfield isn’t free then we just seem to lump it upfield.
Our form is indefensible.It’s a red herring blaming injuries. Our style of play away from home is unrecognisable. Today the back four hit it long at the first opportunity. Not direct play, aimless play.
Windass and Garner started to form some understanding against Villa with nice link-up play. But Cook continues to shake things up and we end up looking like strangers on the field. Windass and Vaughan never once looked to play each other in, they operated like lone strikers, chasing down long-balls, isolated.
Same can be said for midfield, not that they had much to do today, with the ball flying over their heads. Morsy and Evans should always be paired up. Ideally allowing the former to drive upto the edge of the box and help out in attack. On the right Byrne is wasted, outmuscled, and lacks guile. Stick him in his familiar right-back role and push James into midfield. At least when Pilkington and Massey are unavailable.
This long-ball crap away from home has been going on since October. No one can explain why Cook persists with it. Well, some try, but our points return says it all. And for those hanging onto that 6pt gap to the relegation spots. Let’s focus on ourselves and up expectations. I want us as a club to fulfill our potential and not target one place better than the three worst sides in the division. We all know many clubs in this division have greater resources. But 2pts from 39, away from home, shows we are massively underperforming.
I agree with that but then I guess it comes down to opinion as to what you see as us achieving our potential. Personally I think surviving as this level with the clubs in the division and the amount of money being thrown around is us overachieving. Maybe that is a defeatist attitude but the value of each squad probably puts us on the bottom 2 or 3.
Injuries are a factor whether you see it as an excuse or not. Take Salah, Firmino, Mane and AN Other out the Liverpool team and see how they do. Even City struggled over Christmas with injuries.
In most games this season we have been missing our LB and entire front 4 so we haven’t been able to play the same style of football as we played at the start of the season because the players we have in are different types of players and also not as good as those missing. Yes we could have picked different sides but that is down to Cook and the medical staff.
I think we will stay up this season and despite our away form, poor performances etc is all that we set out to do. More money then comes into the club and then hopefully we can build and have a decent crack at it like Bristol City say.
Oh, and Nathan Byrne is actually a winger and out of position at right back so technically his more familiar role is on the right ;)
David Graham scored 1 goal in 30 games. He would hardly have fired us to promotion neither would Ormerod.
Our 2nd string was along the lines of:
Walsh
Wright
Thome
Mitchell
McMillan
Johanssen
Flynn
Dinning
Graham
N. Roberts
OrmerodYes some of those did ok here and there but that side or 5 ot 6 of them for most of the season wouldn’t have ben promoted.
No, you asked who would come in if Ellington or Roberts had got injured. Luckily, they both stayed fit. Ellington was jaded near the end of the season, so Jewell put Ormerod in at Leicester and he scored those two goals.
We had options in most areas that season. That seasons team would smash our present side 5 nil, I’m sure.[/quote]
And we have options this season too if 1 or 2 are missing.
I’m not comparing the two sides I’m pointing out that away from the 11 or 12 regulars our squad wasn’t that great. Which is why we needed Kav to come in for Frandsen because when he got injured we lost our way at times.[/quote]
It was far better than this shite. We haven’t got an actual left back! Kav didnt come in for Frandsen, there was a gap inbetween. Cardiff needed money, so we snooped.[/quote]
He was signed as a replacement for Frandsen because we had started to lose our way a little with no midfield general. Yes there was a gap, but we wouldn’t have signed Kav if we still jad Frandsen
David Graham scored 1 goal in 30 games. He would hardly have fired us to promotion neither would Ormerod.
Our 2nd string was along the lines of:
Walsh
Wright
Thome
Mitchell
McMillan
Johanssen
Flynn
Dinning
Graham
N. Roberts
OrmerodYes some of those did ok here and there but that side or 5 ot 6 of them for most of the season wouldn’t have ben promoted.
No, you asked who would come in if Ellington or Roberts had got injured. Luckily, they both stayed fit. Ellington was jaded near the end of the season, so Jewell put Ormerod in at Leicester and he scored those two goals.
We had options in most areas that season. That seasons team would smash our present side 5 nil, I’m sure.[/quote]
And we have options this season too if 1 or 2 are missing.
I’m not comparing the two sides I’m pointing out that away from the 11 or 12 regulars our squad wasn’t that great. Which is why we needed Kav to come in for Frandsen because when he got injured we lost our way at times.
David Graham scored 1 goal in 30 games. He would hardly have fired us to promotion neither would Ormerod.
Our 2nd string was along the lines of:
Walsh
Wright
Thome
Mitchell
McMillan
Johanssen
Flynn
Dinning
Graham
N. Roberts
OrmerodYes some of those did ok here and there but that side or 5 ot 6 of them for most of the season wouldn’t have ben promoted.
I expect the gap between Latics and the bottom three to be more than 6 points come 5pm on 23 February.Hopefully
Something needs to be done about our away form though but personally I put it down to a complete lack of confidence. We just crumble when it gets tough.
Because everyone on here is w@nking over Blackburn.
It may be seen as an excuse but its a fact. Dont take your chances at this level (we dont) and you get punished. Give sides easy chances at this level (we do) and you get punished.
In league 1 you can get away with it. Not here. THAT is his point and players missing penalties and simple chances and making schoolboy defensive mistakes is not the fault of the bloke on the touchline.
Or to use your ferrari reference (which actually contradicts the shit you have come out with the last few weeks and is exactly what everyone has been saying wiyh regards to our injuries) if the driver opts to try and drive round with the handbrake on is it the mechanics fault when it breaks?
Agree with MOST of that, as it happens.
I looked at our squad weeks ago and could see it hasnt got much depth to it. A couple of injuries and suspensions, and knew we would be stretched. But whos job is it to sort that out? The manager.
New owners…chairman…joe royle…jackson… what are they playing at? Action was needed to be taken about 4 weeks ago, and it wasnt.
Hes not even on borrowed time now. Hes flatlined. Same old excuses, same old bullshit. If he was a dog, he would’ve been put down. Shame on the powers that be for dragging it out. Genuinely thankful he did a good season last season, but shouldve been pushed out before now with a “thanks for what you have done, best wishes for your next job” mentality. Not dragging it out like this.
Attendance and support wise, its dropped off just the same as Boltons has. Thats how shit its got.[/quote]
And that is why we have to look at who we are and where we are. With the transfer budget we had in August it was going to be very difficult to build a SQUAD good enough for this division. We probably have a decent 11 maybe 1 or 2 changes but to lose the players we have our squad will always be stretched.
Even Jewell didn’t have a quality SQUAD when we were promoted and he had plenty of money. I mean if Ellington and Roberts got injured who were the replacements?
If a salesman is given a target of 100 sales in a year and after 60% of the year has made 60 sales will he get sacked? No because despite not hitting target yet he is in line to do so.
Granted if he had only made 10 sales after 60% they probably would.
Cook was given the task to keep us up. We still haven’t been in the bottom 3 yet and until we are I can’t them pulling the trigger. Think it will be the new man with 7 or 8 games to go scenario.
This coming from a guy that reckons only 2% of Latics fans hate the egg chasing tubsters! I wouldn’t pay too much attention if I were you!Think he means the sport. There are plenty who enjoy RL but of course they won’t support Wigan. Then there are those who hate the sport and have no interest in it but seem to know the Wigan result before me (who is usually at the game) should we have lost.
It’s never going to happen anyway.
They don’t have to tell us anything. They will tell us what we need to know and when we need to know it.
Actually marrer they do, they expect us to buy match day tickets and soon season tickets as well. It is their duty to provide us with an optimistic reason to buy and give us a willingness to keep turning up in numbers.[/quote]
And what they need to tell us is done on social media and press conferences.
Football is a business and as such they are not going to discuss player contracts (until they sign one) and how much players are available for in the transfer market. That will be dealt with on a need to know basis and fans do not need to know.
