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50/50 challenge that the keeper lost I thought. Hate the protection that keepers get considering they already have an advantage.
I agree they do get protected too much – When he initially jumped up the forwards arm was across the keeper’s chin, neck & chest. That’s a foul just as it would/should have been on another outfield player.
If the forward’s arm hadn’t been like that then to me it was just 2 players jumping into each other.That said, whoever that Italian guy was that ITV had on as a pundit (Fabio someone or other) claimed that it’s in FIFA’s rules that you cannot touch a keeper in any way in the 6 yard area. That isn’t true even if it often seems that way
Yep – I don’t think he was biased but I think that he bottled it big time on that Neymar elbow. That was a sending off all day long – he looked at the ball, looked at the Croatian fella, then raised his elbow knowing full well it was gonna smack the guy in the face. He probably thought “poster boy of the Brazilian team, opening game, they’re losing, the whole world watching, I’ll play it safe with a yellow” but his thought process if it had been a Croatian player would have been different with the stadium up in arms & the Brazilian team surrounding him & I think he’d have shown a red
The penalty was just really poor refereeing. Touching a player is not a foul but again I think he let the occasion get to him. he then compounded his mistake by cautioning the Croatian player for the foul – even if it had been a genuine foul, that type of challenge isn’t cautionable. It was like that prat in Maribor who seemed to think that any foul or offence in the penalty area is an automatic caution.
In the interests of fairness though, I think he was right in disallowing that Croatian goal when it was still 2-1
I heard a few days ago that we were tracking Terrance Boyd a 23 year old yank playing in the Austrian league for Rapid Wien.It now as hit newsnow so you never know. He has failed to break into the USA world cup squad, but has got a good reputation of having an eye for goal.
At 6′ 2″ with a decent leap, he gets his fair share of headed goals. this could be what weve been waiting for boys and girls.
That story is in the Mail today & quotes a price tag of £3mill. Don’t know whether the mail has anyone in the know or whether they’ve just picked the story up from newsnow
I’d just like to add that I don’t read the Mail – I picked up the story from the BBC website football gossip page!!To kick offPeople who never EVER go to football matches suddenly becoming ‘experts’ because a World cup is on and going down the pub with kits on and festooning their cars with flags and scarves.
Even worse than that though, its normally these idiots who you’ll read about in the paper the day after England get knocked out when “Riot police called in to Keighley town centre after England lose” etc., or who are responsible for the spike in domestic violence incidents after England go out that I was hearing about on BBC Breakfast this morning or who sit in the pub crying after the defeat
According to some thing up on the wall of the school I work at in Liverpool, there was a Scouse campaign to take the capital city away from London & given to Liverpool due to the wealth in the city at the time. Hence why they started to name streets like parliament street & areas like Kensington.
Everyone else laughed at them & the term Liverpudlian was born as a play on the word Liverpuddle which they started to call the city to put them in their placeItalia ’90 – “Gazza’s boot not quite connecting with that cross”
I don’t remember that. You’re not getting it mixed up with Euro 96 where Gazza’s boot didn’t quite connect with that cross are you?
My most vivid memory from Italia 90 is in the first game when some Argentinian forward burst through near the half way line one guy tried to foul him & missed, a second tried to foul him & missed & then a third guy came in & made no mistake. Poetry in motion
I think this youtube clip describes it as the greatest tackle in world cup history & I find it hard to disagree:
Spain 1982 – “Yet the tournament will be remembered for a German foul, namely the assault by goalkeeper Schumacher on the French player Battiston”
As the ref awarded a goal kick to West Germany, technically it wasn’t a foul!! ;)
Bloody hell, he was out injured from about late August to March & people are writing him off as “not coming back the same player”.
Never in a million years was he going to come back & hit the ground running. Let’s give him a close season of rest, a proper pre-season under his belt & a few months of next season before writing him off & advising the club to take the money & runWere the spurs fans 8 years before in their semi final with wolves also “to blame”The archaic design of the stadium and incompetence of the police were the cause of Hillsborough, the drunken bad behaviour was vastly over stated by police and government personnel and fed to a frenzied media pack looking for any anti football fan scoop. That’s the same media that reported they had evidence of deliberate arsonists or saw fans throwing fireworks, in the week after the Bradford disaster.
The crime at Hillsborough and why it is still relevant was not the tragedy on the day, but the fact the police and government lied and altered their statements to save their own skins at the expense of the feelings of those left behind, and in a so called civilised society were we expect the Police to serve and protect us all irrespective if we watch football or not, that is not just a disgrace but criminal and totally unforgivable.With regards to Spurs in 1981 & its relevance to Hillsborough I think it came to light at the inquest the other year that the capacity of that standing section had been calculated using an incorrect formula so its official capacity was way above what it could safely hold. The pens they put in the standing section were designed so entrance into areas that were full could be closed off & to act as secondary crush barriers to stop sideways momentum of the crowd. The problem was that if you’re trying to put too many people in there its always going to be future problems.
Incidentally I was in the seating section above Leppings Lance terrace for a United v Sheff Wed league game some time in the mid 80’s. Whilst I couldn’t see everything that was going on from my seat there was clearly some issue at that game coz despite the fact that the game was all ticket they had to open up a big section of terrace where the floodlight was (to the right as you look at the stand from the pitch) & that ended up pretty much full too.Anyway, the point the guy I spoke to was making was that yes there were fans there who had had too much to drink, yes there were Liverpool fans without tickets trying to gain entry to the ground, yes there were fans who got to the turnstiles relatively late on in the day & yes some were trying to force the gate (some coz they didn’t have a ticket & others coz they were getting crushed outside). He was prepared to accept that all that happened & contributed to the situation the police had to manage on the day.
He also said though, & its somet I agree with, that these were an expected occurrence for big games at the time & measures should have been put in place to account for that. And they weren’t. I believe that the entrance to the turnstiles has changed now but at the time you were funnelled into quite a narrow area off the main road – at that United game I went to, the police simply put a line of coppers at points on the road either side of the turnstile entrance & your tickets were checked. It stopped those without tickets getting any further & controlled the flow of people getting to the turnstile. Yes it didn’t solve the problem that occurred in the ground but it prevented any problem outside & ultimately for the semi-final the situation outside is what caused the gate to be opened & allowed the surge of people into the middle pens.There were loads of other issues at play that day, some of which were long standing issues & some of which were factors on the day and some were bigger contributing factors than others.
Like you’ve said though LMB, I think people can accept mistakes to a certain degree if they’re admitted. What compounded these mistakes though is the authorities from top to bottom then lying & covering up their mistakes & attempting to shift the blame wholly on to the supporters. I think that’s why the Liverpool supporters stance has ended up becoming one of complete denial of anything at all even to the extreme of things that were common place at the time – although lets not forget that even the Woolf Report cleared the Liverpool supporters of any blame & even that appears to have played some part in glossing over the role of the authorities
I think Froch will win it.
I watched the last one & although the stoppage at the time that it came was unfair, I’ve no doubt that Froch would have gone on to win by virtue of a stoppage shortly afterwards – later that round, maybe the next or the one after.
Froch underestimated Groves last time & is unlikely to make the same mistake twice & the thing is that despite the first round knock down & being way behind on the cards, Froch took everything that Groves threw at him, took it & then was able to assert himself on the fight as it wore on & Groves tired.
Groves put everything he had into that last fight & still lost, albeit unfairly, but I think he’d have gone on to lose anyway.For Groves to win, I think he’ll have to go at it from the off like he did last time but maintain it beyond round 5-6, against a fighter who will be more prepared for what he can throw than last time & I just don’t think he has it in him
Hope I’m wrong though
No idea where you get the idea that he would have been asked to take a pay cut to stay. I suspect he was simply offered more money at Sunderland than any improved offer on the table from Wigan. That, plus the opportunity to play in the Premier League, plus that chance to stick up two fingers at the neanderthal knobheads at Wigan who didn’t understand him because they know nothing about football… no brainer, I would have thought.Good luck Jordi, and thanks.
It’s an assumption to be honest, but one based on the fact that his last contract was signed whilst Latics were still a premier league club raking in £40mill in TV money & with an average attendance about a third higher & when advertising revenue & corporate income was undoubtedly higher. I’d be amazed therefore if the club which has seen it’s income at least half just in TV rights alone is offering players who are coming to the end of contracts signed in the premier league, equal or improved deals.
Different player & at a different stage in his career, but I read that Gary Caldwell has been offered a new contract which is more than a 50% cutBloody hell, were they both 29 years ago? I remember being on holiday in Aberystwyth for the Heysel Disaster & watching it all in the campsite clubhouse – can remember it clear as day & its hard to believe it was that long ago.
As for the Heysel tragedy itself, anyone who knows me knows that I have no particular fondness for Scousers but I will kind of stick up for them about this. Any research into it will tell you that the Juventus fans in the neutral section next to the Scousers were as to blame for the trouble starting as the Liverpool fans were. Had the ground been of an adequate standard then the wall against which the Juventus fans had backed up against would not have collapsed and it would have just been a case of serious crowd trouble.
For Liverpool fans to basically wind up taking all the official blame for it was/is IMO wrong. To then ban all English clubs from European competition whilst Juventus had to play a couple of games behind closed doors was also wrong.It’s only one person’s viewpoint, but the evening before the Hillsborough commission reported a couple of years back I was talking to a Liverpool fan who was at Hillsborough that day by the gate when it was opened & also in the section where it kicked off at Heysel. He’s the only Liverpool fan I’ve ever heard say that the police can’t be given all the blame for what happened at Hillsborough & that the conduct of some Liverpool supporters that day also contributed towards it. When it came to Heysel though, he was adamant that the whole chain of events was started by the Juventus fans in that section where the wall collapsed – said they’d had to put up with all sorts of bottles, coins & more being launched at them & they were getting spat on. And that after the police standing by for ages doing nothing (if they’d just filled the gap between the 2 temporary chicken wire fences it would have stopped it), the Liverpool fans pulled down the fences & attacked the Juventus fans who ran, backed up against the wall & it collapsed. A little research will pretty much back than chain of events up.
That’s not to excuse what happened at all but its nowhere near as simple as saying the Liverpool fans caused it. And yes they seem to make very little of the anniversary.I watched footage of the Bradford fire last year as part of a fire safety training course in work. Feckin frightening how quickly that spread & even more tragic when you consider that after several warnings about the stand & accumulation of rubbish in the void between the seating terrace & the stand below, the stand had been condemned & demolition was due to begin on it 2 days after the game
True, but he won’t get that at many other clubs and will probably be first choice here so it comes down to what the player wants I guess.Well he won’t get anywhere near £60k a week anywhere I’d imagine but they’ll certainly be some clubs out there prepared to offer him far more than the £10k-£15k that Latics seem to be offering (if some papers are to be believed).
Besides which, I think he’s turned us down twice before so it looks like he don’t fancy moving oop north
If he does go, I doubt whether any stick he’ll have taken off the Latics faithful will have had any bearing on his decision – he signed a 3 or 2 year extension whilst Bobby was still here, when he wasn’t a regular & he probably got more stick than he gets now.
What will make him move is the contract offered elsewhere as opposed to the pay cut that he’s undoubtedly been offered by Latics.
I agree with Latics offer (we can’t pay with money that isn’t there) & I completely understand Gomez’s decision if he takes the best money offered
I see Malcolm Glazer has died.Wonder what will happen to FC United now their raison d’etre is out of the way? How many of their supporters will now suddenly remember who they really supported all the time.
From my experience, you won’t find many FC United fans who don’t want Manchester United to still win things
When I did a game there the ones I spoke to after the game certainly still did, Their issues were how the Glazer’s had saddled United with a huge debt in order to buy them & using money which should have gone back into the club into paying off that debt & then a whole range of stuff about the modern professional, top level game around cost & SkyI doubt many will shed a tear at Malcolm Glazer’s death but it won’t make any of them start to go to Old Trafford again
