jrfatfan

Agree some great times under Jewell, but just as many bad times. Amongst the best being the cup final and getting pished wet through at Brammell lane when we did that amazing final day escape from relegation.

The worst being the lack of any plan B whatsoever and that awful pump up field from the goalie to Lee Mac, that inevitably went into touch or headed on to their centre back.
Glad to see PJ has gone on to better things at Derby and now at Ipswich. He is my odds on favourite to get the old elbow and the weary trapes down to Brocol house.

I for one prefer the football we are trying to play under Martinez. :woohoo:

I can appreciate your apathy Horc, there’s a couple of my mates who have jacked in going to any away matches and feel so negative about the club. I don’t go to all the away matches like I used to, perhaps a mixture of the long trips, shyte “stuck in a corner” views, poor results, games beamed into the comfort of your home, missing out on my Saturday night pish up, getting a bid long in the tooth etc etc , have all added to taking the easy option for trips that are farther than Blackburn going north, the midlands going south, scousers going west and well er nobody going east.

What I will say though is I really don’t think Martinez or Whelan are happy for just hitting 17th place. They have played some superb football this season and I know I keep repeating it but, they have not got the results that they have deserved in at least 4-5 games. with a bit of luck we could have been in the top 10 comfortably and I’ve not ruled that out yet.

As for the cup games, I honestly think his tactics of putting some new blood in is a good one and gives the likes of McManaman and Mustoe the chance to show if they can step up to the mark and take the challenge. As it happens these two players looked the best on show at Swindon. I was bitterly disappointed with the more senior pros who didn’t look like they were up for it at times.
I didn’t go due to my “Midlands South” reason, but knew very well that he would make changes. It would be great to get a good cup run, but getting knocked out got me wound up for half an hour or so, then I started looking towards the city game.
Lets all embrace a famous Wigan motto and “keep the faith”

I actually understand were you are coming from on this, however it all boils down to what your expectation of a fan was and still is.

Most of us owd uns and maybe a few of the young uns who started watching the tics in the championship, will tell you that the thought of Wigan Athletic getting in the prem was “pie in the sky” stuff, when Whelan first said it.
The dream came true and for the first time since my dad died in the 1989, I actually cried like a baby, yip a forty odd year old bloke with face painted blue, blubbering in the West Stand then running on the field to hug the players, what a dipstick!. However, when I look back there were older geezers on sticks doing the same thing, you could feel, smell and taste the air of success and through sea of many strange faces you could pick out the old familiar faces, albeit a bit chubbier and balder than you remembered um at Springy.

Now at this point is were the foundation was built that would shape the views, opinions, between “darksider” and a “lightsider” that we have seen develop over the last few years.

I found it mind blowing that Wigan were in the prem. I got an away season ticket and watched every league game and every cup game in the first season, wearing my colours home and way often strutting like a turkey cock as I walked past the home fans, outside the likes of Highbury, Anfield, Old Trafford and Stamford bridge. In the majority of places the look back was similar to what a pishead gets when gate crashing a party, “little Wigan are taking the pish, little Wigan are taking the pish” did this mean anything to any other fans apart from Bolton, could the opposition fans actually make out what was being chanted by these blue and white gate crashers?
The thing that was in my mind at that time was enjoy it while it lasts mate, bin there done it got the t shirt, my feet were stuck well and truly on the ground.
Now that’s not being pessimistic in my mind, its being realistic, call it getting back down from cloud cuckoo land.

So as I said, this is the seed being planted for what we are witnessing now on this board, where the hell can Wigan go from 10th place in the EPL, throw in a major cup final un aw.

Expectations, expectations expectations. Set your sights at Whelans, “Wigan are going to get into Europe” rant, I’ve no problem with that at all but …. you’de better watch out…. bushak!!
Bleedin eck we are in a relegation battle and another, and another this team are shyte, Jewell has taken us as far as he can, no plan B, oh no who the fek is this Julius Agahowa geezer, bloody hell Roberts is off to blackburn, blackburn, yip blackburn, bloody rubbish Wigan, when will we get a fekin point off united, Bruce get your team going forward I’m not happy with a point, can’t beat fekin Blackpool at home, 9 goals, yip 9 goals conceded, martinez doesn’t know what hes doing, bring in a top manager Whelan yer tosspot, where’s our fekin Warchest?????

Now while all that’s going on,…. call it being pessimistic if you insist, or not setting my goals high enough, I’m actually quite pleased with 7 seasons in the prem. I have quite enjoyed the roller coaster rides, especially last season, which fekin wigan is going to turn up today!!. I have enjoyed watching players like Baines, Valencia, Palacios, Chimbonda and Bullard grow and nurture as Wigan players, knowing full well they will be off to dizzier heights as soon as they get some consistancy in their game. I fully expect the likes of McCarthy, Diame and Moses to do the same, if not this season, then next season or the season after.
I have and always will be a Latics fan, whether martinez or joe shyte is in charge. I will continue to do like most people do and rant to my mate coming home in the car after a defeat. Fekin passing game caught us out again, gifted um a bastad goal again, beaten by a poor sunderland team, not one shot on target FFS.
However, although I may have had the odd moan on here over the past 6.5 seasons, I will never go on a tirade against our manager or team. I have often said to my mate, its kll right for us to have a moan, but if I here any other fekker calling um, i’ll, i’ll……

This post is not meant to try and shift the dark to the light in any way shape or form. I’m just trying to explain how I and many others feel on here and why we get pished off with the constant hatred, yip its hatred, against Whelan, Bobby and certain players.
I do actually think bobby is trying to do things right, this has been proven in many games over the past couple of years, no matter what “most embarrassing game / score” people care to mention.
This season more than any we have outplayed the opposition only to concede a stupid give away goal, miss the 3 or 4 chances we had and get a diabolical decision from the officials call it excuses or what you want.
Martinez must be as frustrated as all of us the way many games have panned out, but good on him, he ain’t changing his philosophy and hopefully get the luck, the fox ion the box, the sturdy defender that his effort merits.

Anyway, that’s me done, I’m off to see if the admin will post this on the home page. ;)

I don’t know whether you’ve noticed, but nearly every time Messi scores with his head, there is nobody challenging him, in fact usually not within 2 yards of him. When he does get challenged he either heads wide or loses the header.
I’m sure I’ve seen the compilation of Messi headers in a video somewhere ;)

You don’t have to put up with it, just stick to watching the peanut clodders, there’s a team that can’t be relegated no matter how shat they are. :huh: