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There’s not a cat in hell’s chance that you’d go down as a joke. That is exclusively reserved for Derby. (Thankyou Mr Jewell!!!).
However I disagree about your comparison to Bolton & Blackburn. When they went down they had a true fan base in excess of 15,000, whereas your fanbase would collapse if you were relegated.
Fortunately, despite you being a selling club, there are plenty worse sides this season, so it would take something catastrophic to happen if you went down this year.
Is that anything like how your beloved wigan thugby’s fan base collapsed ?
worriers v leeds c.20k (albeit cheap and free tickets)perhaps a sniff of wembley,anyway mutty you and your mate tightarse came on telling us how good your support is.
worriers v warrington c. 12k (cup semi final) a game less that 10 minutes away for wolves and 25 mins away for worriers couldnt sell out a 13500 stadium for the biggest game for both clubs in years.
worriers v wolves c.11k (league match less than 2 weeks after the massive support leeds game) now it seems to me losing 10 thousand in 2 weeks is a real collapse.
Please enlighten me and tell me:How much should DW spend?
Who should he buy?
How much should he invest with no return?
What is your current occupation?I look forward to your answers.
how has david whelan not had any return ?
you explain that to me after reading what i posted on numerous occaisions on both this and other message boards.David Whelan CHOSE to do all those things,we as fans did not ask him,he gave with one hand and now seems to be taking back with the other.
lets examine mr whelans motives and what it actually cost him.Many of you on here,those who seem to be in the “whelan can do no wrong camp” keep saying how much it cost him,others accuse his critics of having no business sense well i am now going to say something that some of you will not agree with.
IT COST HIM NOTHING
why you may ask ?
It costs up to £50,000+ for a 30 second tv advert,but these have to be bought in groups, peak and off peak and this 50k is the tip of the iceberg,this figure does not include any of the production fees,
well all the way through the latics meteoric rise JJB had more free advertising airtime than a company of its size could ever wish for,
they even managed to get FREE airtime on the BBC,nigh on impossible seeing as the beeb dont do commercial adverts,
Latics never EVER got a mention without a link to whelan himself or JJB plc. in particular.
This was a marriage of two organisations that was a marketing company’s dream come true, and for a man who seems to crave publicity and a media attention as much as he does it was priceless.I suggest that mr whelans motives for ‘investing’ in wigan athletic were the same as the reasons he gave for ‘not investing’ in manchester united,every football fan in the lower leagues wanted their own david whelan and instantly recognised his company.
Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.david whelan has had a motive for everything he has done in life and wigan athletic are no longer needed in his overall outlook and that is why he is doing what he is now,he has clawed back every penny he has ever spent on wigan athletic and is now making sure it will not cost him any more.
go as a 1970’s type british leyland worker with a latics shirt on
nearest thing we will get to a decent striker this year
I sit in the East stand and on a clear day if you look closely you can see the strings attached to Martinez. They lead up towards the vip seats where a man in a dark overcoat appears to be working them !what a load of rubbish !
i have it on good authority,he is radio controlled
stoke city’s owners are minted and have long term ambition the signings they have made are all players with premiership expierience,they are no longer one of the relegation pack.
I reckon if we made a bid of £5m, we’d get him.
He’s not worth £5M on current form.[/quote]
plenty latics fans dont think he was ever worth that
People on here call vat (dave from skem alledgly) but i think Bobbyswigan is the one with a breakdown
I don’t think he is one of Arkys reincarnations as he isn’t clever enough.[/quote]
shouldn’t that be incarnations ?
Someone else mentioned this, I can’t understand it.With 5 in midfield, you’d think he’d create width by playing left footed NZogbia on the left and right footed Koumas on the right. Why narrow everything down by playing them on the wrong side? Might as well go back to Lee Mac!
dont say things like that its anti whelan/martinez you know,mark my words the ‘look how far god has brought us brigade’ will be up soon and on here paying homage to st david of parbold !
It’s funny how the poster fillmoss :roll: brings this up from 2005
How come he dont bring up something off tinternet from 1995 when the same person alot on here hate, saying i will get this club int premier league :roll: :roll: :roll:
i am going to copy and paste something i have posted on the waterstones book signing thread that you seem not to have seen or chosen to ignore thtyoneyearswafc about david whelans motives,so read it and tell me hes still our saviour.David Whelan CHOSE to do all those things,we as fans did not ask him,he gave with one hand and now seems to be taking back with the other.
lets examine mr whelans motives and what it actually cost him.Many of you on here,those who seem to be in the “whelan can do no wrong camp” keep saying how much it cost him,others accuse his critics of having no business sense well i am now going to say something that some of you will not agree with.
IT COST HIM NOTHING
why you may ask ?
It costs up to £50,000+ for a 30 second tv advert,but these have to be bought in groups, peak and off peak and this 50k is the tip of the iceberg,this figure does not include any of the production fees,
well all the way through the latics meteoric rise JJB had more free advertising airtime than a company of its size could ever wish for,
they even managed to get FREE airtime on the BBC,nigh on impossible seeing as the beeb dont do commercial adverts,
Latics never EVER got a mention without a link to whelan himself or JJB plc. in particular.
This was a marriage of two organisations that was a marketing company’s dream come true, and for a man who seems to crave publicity and a media attention as much as he does it was priceless.I suggest that mr whelans motives for ‘investing’ in wigan athletic were the same as the reasons he gave for ‘not investing’ in manchester united,every football fan in the lower leagues wanted their own david whelan and instantly recognised his company.
Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.So you think Whelan turned down investing in Man Utd cos he thought investing in Wigan Ath was a better business venture?!Thats essentially your point is it not?
i suggest you go down to waterstones and buy his book and READ it,and then you might know what i mean,or more so why he didn’t buy man utd.
whelan was looking for a vehicle for furthering his JJB empire and he hit paydirt when he bought little latics and that is “essentially” my point
Brown legs had gone. Was a average player who did a job nothing more.Saying that I’m not sure that Thomas and Diame are any better
sounds like a description of gomez as well but brown did a least upset the opposition
I don’t think ive ever come across a more negative bunch than my own set of fans. Thankfully Griff you’ve already put a lot of good points across.Seriously, what do all the Whelan haters really want? He’s took us from the brink of extinction in the bottom tier up to our 5th season in the Premiership, something even far more established clubs such as West Brom & Birmingham can’t achieve on bigger budgets. Were a small town, a small club with a fairly weak fanbase in comparison to others and we’ve been holding our own in arguably the best league in the world for 4 years. I remember when we could only just do that in Division 3. The difference between then and now is quite surreal.
Sure, we are clearly trying to make profits by selling out best players which from the fans pov isnt what we want to see, but this scouting system is good for the club on the pitch short term (provided we can keep finding them) and great for the club off the pitch long term. It beats bidding for players like Gavin McCann and Lee Carsley anyway. Add to the fact Whelan is trying to get us out the red, something most numpties in Wigan don’t realise seeing as they have no education, never mind business sense. Without trying to sound negative, we will get relegated one day, just as all clubs our size do eventually, so id rather see us without any debts and immediately be able to push for a return as apposed to a Leeds situation. With money having ruined football below the big 4/5 there’s only so far we can go, as bad as that sounds.
David Whelan CHOSE to do all those things,we as fans did not ask him,he gave with one hand and now seems to be taking back with the other.
lets examine mr whelans motives and what it actually cost him.Many of you on here,those who seem to be in the “whelan can do no wrong camp” keep saying how much it cost him,others accuse his critics of having no business sense well i am now going to say something that some of you will not agree with.
IT COST HIM NOTHING
why you may ask ?
It costs up to £50,000+ for a 30 second tv advert,but these have to be bought in groups, peak and off peak and this 50k is the tip of the iceberg,this figure does not include any of the production fees,
well all the way through the latics meteoric rise JJB had more free advertising airtime than a company of its size could ever wish for,
they even managed to get FREE airtime on the BBC,nigh on impossible seeing as the beeb dont do commercial adverts,
Latics never EVER got a mention without a link to whelan himself or JJB plc. in particular.
This was a marriage of two organisations that was a marketing company’s dream come true, and for a man who seems to crave publicity and a media attention as much as he does it was priceless.I suggest that mr whelans motives for ‘investing’ in wigan athletic were the same as the reasons he gave for ‘not investing’ in manchester united,every football fan in the lower leagues wanted their own david whelan and instantly recognised his company.
Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.9 attempts each on goal so far of which Blackpool have converted a third of ! We have come out fighting from what I can gather but gate, horse, bolted etc etc !
i only know what paul merson on sky says and i am afraid he doesnt think we have come out fighting,he actually said”if i was martinez i would be worried because they are poor” or “they have had plenty of the ball this half but done nothing with it”
on his last point that is the story of the season so far,to slow with to many ordinary signings.[/quote]
A) don’t listen to Paul Merson, he’s a lush, you know
B) you lost patience after St Mirren??? You know those games are only marginally less important than a league cup game?[/quote]
ah but i know what i was watching v st mirren was garbage despite a blip at villa park nothing i have seen since will change my opinion
and for the record merson predicted us to win easily – he has obviously not seen martinez’s tactics.
Half time 3 – 0 plus according to sky blackpool have had a pan full of chances and we have never looked like scoring.
F U C K I N G J O K Ehmmmm, loyal to the end h? :roll: [/quote]
i ve been loyal for as long as i remember some 45 years, but it has and never will stop me expressing my opinion when i see something so wrong at MY club.
