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We got battered for most of the game against Crawley yes Crawley we also got a scrawpy OG.
One goal in three games an own goal and the clowns sing and clap ‘everythings gonna be alright’ carry on the way we are and you’ll be ‘supporting’ a L2 club next season.
Ive got to be honest, even though I’m currently staying away, I was following the stats on Flash Score. When I read they had had about 70% possession, it was very alarming. We play a style…so called…thats all about keeping possession of the ball. Well, clearly we weren’t.
Fans are starting to vote with their feet now, and my dad and my lads who still go said it was the lowest crowd they’d seen in years. And it’s going to get worse.
We’ve a clueless manager and an owner who will not spend any money. Richest owner we could have, and likely will ever have, and he doesn’t seem arsed. And they won’t sack Baloney because no other fecker would take the job under such constraints.
Anyway, I’m off to Poland in the morning. By the time I get back we might have a 41 year old as first choice keeper and also be short of Thelo, potentially our best chance of getting a match winner, with the deadline on Friday.
It’s great isn’t it? If the above happens, I hope there’s 5000 on next home game. It would serve them right.
Maybe Gelhardt back on loan ?
That’s not going to happen, because his salary is 30k a week. That’s why he’s not gone out on loan of late. Plenty clubs would like him, but can’t afford him.
The thing is Maloney is a very poor manager, Hibernian sussed that out within around 10 games and he was fired, he can’t motivate players, surely any footballer young or old can see this, once you piss off a group of players their heads go down and you won’t get a tune from them.
Very poor manager and coach that employs poor tactics.
Yeah, he’s shocking. Only got cut slack because of his history with Latics, but he’s actually clueless. He’s going to take us down if they stick with him.
Wait til Saturday when we’ve a 41 year old in net as first choice keeper and quite likely also without Asgaard as well. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone came in for Kerr too. Come Saturday, we could be staring Lg2 in the face. If this happens and we end up so weakened, I hope everyone shows their anger next week.
Mentioning the admin squad we had, Dan Gardner could easily have fitted into this squad in midfield. Proper 100 percenter, a solid player a bit like a Luke O’Nien type.
Yeah, Maloney is basically trying to emulate Jimi Hendrix on a £50 acoustic. I’d at least like to see what he could do with some…sensible…backing. I like Aimson, from what I saw. A similar CM and a CF would give us a spine through the team. However, I do think Tickle will go on or before the deadline. Can just see it.
The Jones case as a whole, is bizarre.
So we got him back after letting him go, but only for a month. I’m surprised Maloney did that. It was a very strange move, and as he’s lasted about 2 weeks before he’s left again, it’s embarrassing for the club, and also Maloney. It was an absolute waste of time and makes us look what we are, absolutely shambolic.Also the fact that Humphreys is sat twiddling his thumbs rather than accept a lower paid deal to play for us. I’m not saying we’ve approached him to consider a return, but you’d think his agent would have mooted the idea. But what does that sat? Does it suggest he and Maloney weren’t the best of mates? I really don’t know how to take our manager.
Apart from him having some history with us, what do the players think of him? Does he have a good relationship with the players? Is he too ‘pally’, or on the other hand is he too aloof? I really can’t decide.The next week, coming upto the close of the transfer window could be make or break. Then again, will Danson wait until it’s closed before then getting shut of Maloney, which will then leave it impossible for a new manager to sign anyone anyway. Or is Maloney somewhere near last chance saloon and if they don’t shape up tomorrow, he’ll be gone? My worry is that if they did that now, they’d rush and bring in Neil Critchley who’s been linked with us before. He plays the same turgid, tippy tappy style as Moloney, so would be a waste of time.
I really don’t know where we go from here, but I am concerned.
Matthieu Smith announced his retirement this week, he had done well for Salford last season. I thought we may have brought him in. That Bodvarson who left Bolton was linked with us at one point I think.
Gary Madine is available without a club…I wouldn’t touch him. Known as “top shagger” at Bolton. Apparently had his haircut ONCE a week in the hotel hair salon. We can do without that type.
I’m amazed Humphreys hasn’t found a club. Has he cut off his nose to spite his face? Had he stuck with us and had one more solid season with us and scored a few, I bet he would have got a Championship move. It seems crazy.We’ve long been linked with Adam Reach, midfielder from West Brom, formerly Sheff Wed.
The thing is, a lot of teams have got wise to playing against “the Barca style”. City do well with it because they’ve got £100 million players playing for them. A monkey could manage them.
There’s nothing better than 2 up front and crosses whizzed across the box and finished off. Latics? I really think we are awful and even if we did bring a new guy in, he’s got a hell of a job to turn this bunch into something half decent. We let so many players go at the end of last season, and have now let Hughes go as well, we are so weak.
It doesn’t even have to be 442 we play. We could just play one winger and put 3 in the midfield, tighten it up. Even play a CDM…Scott Smith perhaps? Matt Smith and Thelo in front of him and then the two strikers up front as a L and R pairing…maybe one playing as a target man for the other playing off him. (Get Matthieu Smith in. He’s available, without a club)Nothing makes me think Maloney will try any of this though.
The difference with Swain though was he at least tried to play attacking football, with two upfront. The players we had were very limited, but we did have a few bright spots as I recall. We demolished Crewe who were a decent team then, and we scored some really good goals. David McKearney was better than what we have now, as was Neill Rimmer. Pat Gavin and Neil Morton could be a threat upfront.
And of course then, our owners had real limitations, which isn’t the case now, it just seems that the “running the club sustainably” is being used as a smokescreen to not plough money in…and I’m talking sensibly. Stevie Wonder could see it needs a bit of money spending as we have sank miles behind our rivals.But then again, any manager worth their salt would come out and say this. Paul Jewell said to Whelan when he came in and was met with a case of half arsed players that it needed “major surgery”, and Whelan backed him. I’m not saying our current players are half-arsed, I just don’t think they’re good enough in all honesty. I’m concerned that Maloney seems to think they’re good enough and that’s why I am really worried. The squad is nowhere near good enough, I’ve said this all Summer. We lost the best players in the squad, amd also a lot of experience so I thought that without some strong signings and a bit of money spent, we would struggle. I kept waiting and expected to hear “wigan have signed..” and some experience to come into the squad…a spine through the team to build around. But it never happened. A lot of these young players who have come in would only be fringe players if we had the right squad. Adeeko included.
I’m alarmed that Maloney thinks the squad is good enough, when myself who most would consider a ‘layman’ could see it wasn’t. I’ve watched football live for 40 years at all different levels from Non League to International level. I’ve watched the best, and the worst. So, I can see when it’s not good enough, and this squad is not good enough. It’s not the players fault, it’s upto the manager. He’s got cut a lot of slack due to his history with the club, but my own personal opinion is that he is not upto the job. The football he tries to play, is awful. The club is heading in one direction, and it’s not up.
Some of you will flip when I say this, and that’s fair enough. But the thought has actually gone through my mind a few times that perhaps we’d have been better doing a Bury and folding and then starting again in non league. The only trouble is, I’m not sure there would be enough energy among the various factions of our support to have got us up and running again. But the alternative is this what we have now, an owner who it is debatable if he has any real interest in us at all, and a manager in place who is just a puppet for the ownership who use his history with us keep it just ticking along.
Crowds are going to drop and drop the way things are going. As things stand, we are in serious danger of going down this season. And then what? Latics ‘relocated’ to Leigh Sports Village because its smaller? I could see that happening.
He’s not my type of manager. I like a bit of a gobshite manager, rather than a quiet, thoughtful one. I’d love a Warnock type manager. Show some passion and tell it as it is. Maloney repeats the same old bullshit and spin in his post matches…its already boring.
Something really has to change, and change very soon. People dreading the visit of the mighty Crawley Town on Saturday just shows how bad we are. One up front…is shite. Tippy tappy one paced football, is shite. Got back to basics, do the simple things correctly, and that will be a start. If not, a change needs to be made.
So what’s the point of the future fund thing if as soon as we get a talent, they’re sold for peanuts and the money just disappears to go to ‘pay debts’? How long will that tale/excuse be put out for?
Back in the 80s and early 90s, Bill Kenyon was slaughtered for things like assets being sold off cheaply…for example, David Lowe to Ipswich for 87k. But at least back then the supporters weren’t being milked for the privilege.
It’s like putting your money in a fruit machine that has been rigged to never actually pat out…but you keep ploughing your money in, in sheer hope and naivety. If I’d signed up for that abhorrent scheme which is being ran by an increasingly abhorrent club, I’d have cancelled my DD for it today. (Well, weeks ago, actually)
You are being pickpocketed monthly…and they’re letting you use your own hand.
The way things are, if no money is used to strengthen this squad, which was weak before Hughes was sold, then we are in trouble. Massive trouble.
I would.
Can’t afford the wages he would want. Heard it was about 7k last time he was here.
That bird has flown.
He is no better than Kolo the Klown.
Gets cut some slack due to his history with us.
Awful football and tactics.
Yeah that was a hard watch. It’s simple there’s too too many young lads with very little experience.
Hugill looked ok but it’s that age old problem we’ve had for the past few years:-
Do we blame the forward?
Or
Do we blame the service to the forward?Me?, I think it was the service today. I really don’t see the point of throwing a high ball up to young Hugill with 2 strapping centre half’s either side of him when he clearly wanted to play off the shoulder of the defender but if he does he needs support coming from the middle.
Hugill kept asking for the ball to be played on to his left side but for some reason we kept hitting it down the middle on to his right.
The difference between Rankine and Jones was there for all to see. Jones cutting inside gave Charlton a headache and a half but on the right Rankine simply wasn’t brave enough deciding to turn back at every opportunity.
Why did Hughes come on?, was Aimson injured?, tired? was it the player or the managers choice? because he looked ok to me.
No I’m only saying this because Hughes’s head must be on a different planet right now and it clearly showed with a few big blunders and one costing us a goal.
Up till then Charlton huffed and puffed but weren’t threatening as Kerr came but I said to a friend “A mistake will win this” and it did.
I might get slated here but Adeeko for me is not good enough. I’ve seen enough of him and not enough improvement in that time for him to justify a place on every team sheet.
I’m afraid between him and Rankine that right side was pointless no go area.
Had Kerr and Aimson had of stayed on I think the game fizzles out to a boring 0-0 but sadly it didn’t.Danson needs to back the manager
He needs money (wages or signing fee) to sign players not 12 month loanees. We need to build not chop and change every season because next season.If we’re to steady the ship we need to add an experienced midfielder and only then we might and I can’t stress might enough) we might be in with a slim chance a top half finish
Agree with that. All of it.
What we need to do is stop this tippy tappy backwards and sideways passing nonsense. This one up front crap. We aren’t City. Why does everyone want to play Pep Ball? It’s boring as hell and clearly does NOT suit us. Everybody tries to play that way, one up front…absolute bore fest shite.
442…2 up front, balls into the box from the wide channels. Do it. Other teams will be expecting a Pep ball V Pep ball contest. Absolute bo**ocks to Pep ball! Get the ball down the flanks and into the channels, crossed in to TWO forwards trying to get on the end of it.
I absolutely DETEST this tippy tappy sh*te we try and play. It is God awful. And play at a greater tempo, with intensity and purpose. Instead of 2nd gear laboured, turgid football.
Get some experienced dirty b**tard of a midfielder to solidify it all and allow Matt Smith to push up. He was playing that deep today, he was like a bloody sweeper. He and Adeeko do NOT work. Adeeko is not good enough. Simple as.If they don’t change, and they won’t, it’s going to be a long long season and we could be in real trouble. In his post match comments, Maloney shocked me by saying he was happy with what he saw. He also said Hughes head wasn’t right…so why was he even in today’s squad then? Shouldve been nowhere near. If he’s going or wants to go, get him gone.
Danson can either throw a bit of money for some solid reinforcements, or else be looking at a relegation battle. That team has League 2 written all over it. And a poor League 2 side at that.
Come on, we’re in a mess.
I quote my dad, back in 92 when the Premier League came in and Sky got their filthy mits on it all…
“Sky will ruin football.”
And yes, it’s killed, and is still killing, the game.
It’s eating itself up now, Football.
Sell him for an eight figure fee?
£10,000,000 then.
Never going to happen. If Burnley offer 2 million next week, he’ll be gone.
Utterly deluded.
Great timing….season tickets go on sale same time as the cull announcement. Everyone has an opinion on Humphreys….me….doesn’t bode well that Maloney desperate to keep him and Magennis but off they go. Academy butchered……and Kerr,Jones ,Macmanaman still picking the bones out their offers. F@@@ me would love to see what exactly our “sustainable” wage operating costs actually looks like. If we start getting oubid by the likes of Stockport, Burton, Cambridge, Reading etc then we’ll need to find the proverbial bottle/Genie to steer our recruitment. Humps will be one of league 1′ top scorers if he remains in this league…….I for one sorry to see him go….think he is a big loss .
Brilliant PR work….not.
Humphreys will likely come back to haunt us. I’d be amazed if Bolton aren’t having a think about getting him on board, as he’s put them to the sword a few times.
The squad we are now left with is a struggling League Two squad. Unless Maloney is given some backing, he’s going to struggle to get it strong enough. I’m amazed at some players we still have, and it’s a big gamble to see if Stones and Sze can hack it. Sze has never looked the part when he’s come on.
I think Jones and Kerr will soon be gone and if clubs cone in for Tickle and Hughes, we will be weaker still. And will need to bring in TWO keepers as a priority.I wouldn’t like Maloneys job, and win, lose or whatever, that’s why we’re are with him for the long-haul. Nobody else would come in and work with such a situation. No manager worth their salt, anyway. I feel sorry for Maloney.
Yes, Magennis, I’m glad he’s gone..not being nasty but just stealing a wage for very little back from him. Little bit surprised Luke Brennan has gone, I thought he may have broken into the team.Listen, unless by some miraculous thing Maloney ends up being backed or works absolute miracles, forget ‘top 6’. If he thinks that squad is anywhere near the top 6, he’s absolutely deluded. More like Bottom six. He’s just turned a bang average League One squad into a piss poor League Two squad. And in a League One that’s going to contain Birmingham, Huddersfield, and what will be a Rejuvenated Rotherham, as well as moneybags Wrexham and Stockport, if Maloney genuinely thinks this squad with a few cheapo and freebie additions can be in the mix, I’m sorry but he’s more deluded than I thought.
Definitely NOT renewing. I’ll go to a few choice games over the season, against the aforementioned teams, let’s be honest, tickets are going to be easily available.
I can’t see anything other than a season of struggle for Latics. Last season was bad enough sitting through it, but next season..nah not for me. ST sales will be down, I’m sure of that.
Hi there Leyland Latic.
Have you had an explanation & apology yet ?
We can’t afford to lose loyal fansHi. I received an acknowledgment within 15 min of the ticket office opening last Monday, saying my complaint had been passed to the “Ticket Office Manager” for action.
10 days later, as of now, nothing, not a dicky bird.
If they can’t be bothered, then neither can I.
To think how close I was to joining this Fans Fund thing, so glad I didn’t waste my money.
Sorry to say I’m done.
I’m done as well. Not renewing after 38 years as a ST holder.
This is NOT the club I supported. Thats long gone. I don’t like things whats happening with the club. This Fans Fund thing, the way they’ve been pushing it today, saying you’ll get a discount off your Season Ticket…yes, but the monthly payments of £18pm will mean you’re paying £216 a year for it. For some hoodie that will make you look like some cult member, and priority on away tickets.
I don’t like how people who are on minimum wage will feel obliged to sign up, when it’s money they can’t really afford.
The whole thing stinks for me. Then I’ve heard earlier tonight that club have made redundancies again. What the hell?
I’ve no doubt the stadium was his objective all along. -
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