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If somebody could just help me out with Caldwell being at the club without playing, being in charge of the under 8’s and then becoming manager, compared to us just basically letting our FA Cup winning captain go a year away from a decade at the club. Anyone?
That’s dead easy. He was under contract, but injured. Then he retired as a player. Then he was appointed manager, somehting he had clearly been lined up to do.
Not sure what your point is? Not a rare occurence, granted.[/quote]
The one additional point is that Caldwell signed a new contract last summer.
Why did the club agree to this? Because they were probably looking to the longer term to bring him into the coaching set-up, therefore created a dual role.[/quote]Ah foresight!
I’d have Boyce over Calamity any day, even if it was brewing up.
An upbeat feeling at close of season has washed away and has been replaced with a tightness around my pocket that is struggling to let my wallet out.[/quote]Back on form I see having one of your irrational meltdowns.
Sort of sums up the arrogance of Wigan RL fans. Spat their collective dummies out at having to play at a neutral ground in a game they expected to win and it spectacularly back-fired on them.
Should have got their arses into gear and gone to support the team they claim they so dearly love. No excuses really except for the apologist on here who tries to promote the notion that it wasn’t such a big disappointment after all. Pathetic really.I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?
we have looked at ways in which we can ensure that the matchday atmosphere is improved
Why not close the West Stand and relocate everyone to the East/South which hold 14500 between them?[/quote]
and make it easier for you to individually count everyone and satisfy your obsession with attendance figures perhaps?
Its up to Dave really. He owns the club and seems just as rich or richer than he was in Jewels day. Just up to Dave if he wants to gamble a tiny bit of his fortune.Whelan already gambled quite a bit of his fortune to realise the dream he set out to achieve. Whether he still has the desire or inclination at pushing eighty to bankroll the club and try and do it all again is another matter.
A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.
Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.[/quote]
Jewell had a hungry and determined squad when we moved up the divisions to the PL although playing a different style to the possession football Martinez employed.
The question is whether Wigan Athletic can still attract the calibre of player to repeat what Jewell and Swansea did.[/quote]If any club in League one has the pulling power to attract the right calibre of players it should be us.
Paul Jewell got a great team and squad together for relatively little money, lets hope the board and Gary Caldwell do it over the summer.
They don’t have to be big name players as Paul Jewell prooved, they just have to be half decent players who are hungry and up for the challenge and willing to show a bit of pride in wearing the Wigan Athletic kit.
Roll on August, it can’t come quick enough for me.[/quote]The team that won the second division title under Jewell in the 2002-2003 season was assembled at a cost of about £6m, which equates to about £9m in today’s money. That was a very significant investment for a League One club. Some of those players were Premier League quality; McCulloch, Ellington, Bullard, Filan, not to mention the up and coming Leighton Baines.
I wish Gary Caldwell the best of luck and both he and Wigan Athletic will get my full support next season but to think that same level of investment will be forthcoming and that same calibre of player will be attracted to a club that is heading in the opposite direction to the one back then is, in my view, optimistic.
A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.
Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.[/quote]
Jewell had a hungry and determined squad when we moved up the divisions to the PL although playing a different style to the possession football Martinez employed.
The question is whether Wigan Athletic can still attract the calibre of player to repeat what Jewell and Swansea did.I would argue that it is more difficult playing “possession” football in the lower leagues on the basis that the skill level required is a limiting factor on the players at your disposal.
This was evident at Brentford when they started to press us high up the pitch causing many forced errors. Caldwell will have to be very selective in his choice of players if he intends to play that way, which begs the question will that calibre of player be available to a League One club.
A certain Mr. Martinez guided Swansea to promotion from League 1 as Champions by playing possession football.[/quote]
A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.
I would argue that it is more difficult playing “possession” football in the lower leagues on the basis that the skill level required is a limiting factor on the players at your disposal.
This was evident at Brentford when they started to press us high up the pitch causing many forced errors. Caldwell will have to be very selective in his choice of players if he intends to play that way, which begs the question will that calibre of player be available to a League One club.
Absolutely hammered out of sight last night in a debacle that had the coach nearly crying the soft bastard! I wonder how many will turn up for the Hull game next Friday night? Talking of attendances, how many were on for the Huddersfield game? There doesn’t appear to be a record of it anywhere?
Five wins on the bounce – in three of them, the opposition kept scoreless.
100% home record in the league.
Average attendance almost 14,000 in league games.
Life as a warrior isn’t too bad at the moment. ;)[/quote]
Your point being exactly?
And not much to brag about is it?
On your favourite subject of attendances if you take out the anomaly of the St Helens game – where have those extra 12,000 gone? – the average attendance is about 12,500. Not great considering a 100% home record, the manner of those wins and that Wigan is regarding as being a rugby town.Mine was a joke by the way! Holt up front on his own next season anyone?I’d be surprised if Grant Holt plays again at any kind of competitive level.
Riera may well be more effective in the Spanish league but you cannot expect him to produce the same level of performance in the Championship playing a style and system to which he is just not suited.
Similar thing with Delort except he was being asked to step up the equivalent of about three divisions.
So why sign them in the first place?
Here is David Sharpe’s comments when asked how he viewed the future:-
“We need to implement the correct sort of player recruitment, where every prospective player is assessed statistically, how he performs in different circumstances, and research is done into his background, his attitude, even his profile on social media. Then we want to have had him watched several times, at home, away, in as many different circumstances as we can so we can build a complete dossier and at any given time we have several targets in every position and we’re ready to move.”So bye, bye Uwe it was.
McKay is the only one apart from Gary to play McClean up front. Could never did and can’t recall Swapenchange being so daft. FFS he is a midfielder and a really good one ffs. Please Shell man do not compare him with Lee McCulloch the Londonderry lump is not in the same league as Super Lee.Striker, midfielder, however you wish to label him one thing he isn’t is “really good”.
