TyldesleyLatic

As someone who has not seen any of the Fulham game from Sunday, can I ask what formation Bobby played in this

I saw the line up when I checked my phone & saw that it had Moreno, Scotland, Rodallega & N’Zogbia & assumed that he’d gone 4-4-2 but having read this thread I’m guessing not & am now puzzled as to how he tried to make that work as a 4-5-1

The fact that he got the ball is irrelevant

“To me, playing Thomas, Diame and Scharner in the middle is overkill, especially for someone who claims to play the passing game. If he really wants to play everything through the middle, as he seems to want to do by playing the wingers on the wrong wings, he needs better passers in there.”

I think its obvious to everybody that its overkill. he did it against Burnly & the game sparked into life after Thomas went off
I can understand him doing it against City to be honest & to be fair it was working coz it completely stifled em but as you say its overkill against most sides.
I’m hoping that on Sunday he’ll go with Diame & McCarthy with Moses “in the hole” with N’Zogbia & Rodallega on the wings coz the problem IMO (and Chris Waddle – managerial genius that he is!!) pointed out that we struggle to get me into the box quickly enough when the front man has held up play coz (with the exception of the wingers) the midfielders are all too defensive in nature

I think he’ll go too but where does your claim come from

I’ve seen an article today in which Bobby talks about him leaving but only if a club regularly in Europe, and if our asking price is met & if Whelan says the money can be re-invested in the team.
He specifically mentions a move to Brum wouldn’t happen

From a report i read a few weeks ago about this fella Martinez sees him as the creative spark playing “in the hole” role that Gomez has flopped in

“Amaya … ok, he has played twice and looked dodgy. But perhaps he will come good”

That just reinforces my point though. At this moment in time he isn’t good enough so we’re wasting a invaluable transfer fee & salary funds when they could have gone on someone who is up to the job now & not in 2 seasons time. Its not an impossible task coz previous managers have managed to find the likes of Bramble, De Zeeuw, Scharner, Boyce who didn’t need a season/seasons to “settle in”. If our managers sign someone from a spanish second division side they need to be confident that they are good enough to start now whilst accepting that there is still some development for them to make & hence future profit on transfer fees

“Judging him on two cup games is hardly fair” – fair point but he now seems to be 6th in the pecking order for a centre half’s spot so its fair to say our manager doesn’t think he’s up to the job at present either

The others you mention are down to personal opinion & whilst I know what you mean about not being a Wigan player – the majority of the crowd will always prefer a limited grafter liek Neil Roberts as opposed to someone with bags of skill but less commitment like Simon Haworth. But personally I don’t think Gomez is up to the job & its nowt to do with him being a fancy dan – he’s just not good enough. Espanyol didn’t want him & bearing in mind their usual league position they are a Spanish equivalent of Latics & it was always going to be debatable as to whether a reserve player from a similar top flight club was going to be good enough for our first team.

You reinforce your point about “Wigan type players” with what you say about Scotland coz he is a grafter but he isn’t a premier league standard player in a million years no matter how hard he tries. While he gives 100% he shouldn’t get slaughtered from the terraces but it doesn’t alter the fact that he isn’t good enough

Just to back up my point Bobby is now saying that he wanted to ease both the above players into top flight life (contrary to what he said when they were signed) so he himself is admitting to signing players who “aren’t ready”
A club like Wigan Athletic IMO can’t afford to sign players who need easing in. We operate with too small a squad, with too small a budget & in too cut throat a division to allow that to work. We need players good enough to start now not those “we hope will come good” – that doesn’t mean expecting us to sign “top” players but as I said elsewhere to chuck all your eggs in the “players with potential” basket is a dangerous tactic if you want to stay in this division

Oh & as long as I’ve been watching Latics there have always been people (me included at times) who will moan about players & managers whether we’re doing well or not & I’m sure the same goes for every club. Latics getting relegated won’t stop that!!

I think there’s a certain sense of looking at Caldwell’s challenge through Latics tinted specs.

if I’m honest I winced when he put the challenge in & half expected the red to come out but regardless of that no media pundit I’ve heard since the challenge was made has said that he shouldn’t have been sent off – and that can’t all be anti-Latics bias

That’s an absolute disgrace if its true

When you bear in mind that Horwich/Leigh RMI’s/Genesis’s owners basically saved Leigh RL from going under by buying their ground from them & letting them continue to play there, the way that the football club looks like its now been shafted stinks.
I might be wrong but I also though that the sale of Hilton Park was used in part to fund the new stadium – same with land at Leigh college & one of the local amateur rugby league sides
Personally I think the club will now go under – so well done Wigan Council

The story reminds me of how St Helens Town FC have allegedly been treated after allowing themselves to be bought out for nowt by the RL side & for them to sell their ground for housing to pay off debts. Only for them to turn round several years down the line, start demanding back payment on rents, leccy etc.. & now I don’t think they’re gonna be allowed to play at the RL’s new ground