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This has needlessly been blown out of all proportion by FIFA.
Their stance is, “World football’s governing body prohibits political, religious or commercial messages on shirts”The poppy is none of the above in my mind, it’s a symbol of remembrance.
Maybe our FA should offer FIFA some royalties on any poppies sold in the UK. That should swing it for us!
I’ll play devil’s advocate but start by saying that I wear them & do so as an act of remembrance for those who’ve sacrificed their lives for our future’s
That said, I can see FIFA’s logic. To us it is a mark of respect & remembrance, but it’s clear just from James McLean’s stance that some other communities & nations don’t’ see it that way & FIFA can’t be seen to condone that but then refuse other nation’s requests for symbols that mean similar to them but different to others.
However if I was at the FA or playing then I would wear the armband anyway & take any punishment as I knew beforehand that they didn’t allow it
FIFA has kind of made a rod for its own back though by either allowing or not noticing the FAI’s tribute to the Easter rising on their shirts earlier this yearTo be fair to Mourinho, Joyce also applied for the Blackburn job before he’d even had the chance to work with him
Looking good for us, he’s very well thought of, and the infographics make good reading.For those who say he has no Championship experience I think I would rather have someone who has had success (a lot of it) at any level and a track record of developing young players (which after all is the business we are currently in, like it or not) than someone who has Championship experience, but that experience is of being regularly sacked.
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/thank-you-warren-joyce.423312/
I can’t say that it’s an appointment that is getting me excited or upset to be honest – it’s much of a “blergh” feeling
He is undoubtedly a very highly regarded coach who has achieved a lot in that role at United. However there is a world of difference between coaching some of the best U23’s in Europe that you’ve been spoon fed by others to managing an entire football club and appointing your underlings, appointing your scouting network & identifying the players you want to bring in (& release) and much more.
Time will tell if he can make that step up but many haven’t been able to, though many have as well – I hope he’s the latter but for me it’s way too early to say whether you think he will or he won’t be a success.
What the appointment is though, is a big big riskKarl feckin Robinson????
I freakin well hope not. A 2 bit league 1 manager who completely & totally flopped in his only Championship season and who even his own Chairman was slagging him off at the end of last season.
Then makes a complete balls up of his return to league 1 & gets the push.
And yet the rumour is that Sharpe rates him??? I hope a rumour is all it isTo be honest im fuming at this.
WTF gives some newspaper the right to see the English National Manager lose his job, just as we have someone of our own nationality and a belly full of fire.
I don’t particularly like the guy due to his past links, however I think he would have given this England team the kick up the arse they need and looked forward to seeing what he could do.
The paper clearly knew that as a result of their “undercover” operation that he would lose his job – what a great example of how to do your job well, by getting someone else the sack by setting them up behind their back.
Why do this now, knowing he has only just started ?
To me, is just pure evil and I actually do feel sorry for the guy, all he has done has offered his opinion and advice, he has not been paid and has spoken just like I would to someone when not in the office.
He has been an idiot yes, naïve yes, but deserve the sack ? No ..
Has anyone condemned the newspaper for their behavior ?
An irrelevant argument. That’s a completely separate issue. Are you really saying that corruption is OK, and we should just keep looking away if it comes to our notice?
The Telegraph (and trust me, I hate them only less than the S*n and the Fail) have obviously been tipped off about large scale corruption in football, and have acted upon it. Whether what they have done is ethical or not is not the point. They have exposed that there are significant people in the game who are open to taking dodgy money.
And the victims of this are us, the paying punters. How are we to know that a game hasn’t been rigged? Unless the game is seen to be well-policed (there will always be the odd dodgy character) and in general played honestly, then we may as well go and watch WWE.
I hold reservations on the newspaper’s behaviour and methods, but not on their right to investigate thoroughly. But I do condemn Allardyce et al for their avarice that puts the integrity of the game we love into question.[/quote]
I’d have to agree with you Garswood
I’d also go a step further & say that the Telegraph aren’t selecting people at random & hoping to hit gold, but rather they’re selecting people who they’ve been told from others are up to dodgy stuffUnderstand what you are saying Tyldesley , but it is a keepers job to dive at the feet on oncoming players. Anywhere else on the pitch and i’d have to agree with you.
Czech was pretty close to getting there to be fair and when you look at the direction the ball went (sideways) and to an Arsenal defender, so no chance of another Hull player scoring, then for me the outfield player made the most of. The ref didn’t give it when it happened, think the linesman gave it?Again, I’d have to disagree
It’s not the keepers job to dive at the feet of oncoming players – it’s the keepers job to stop any attempts becoming goals.
Coming haring out & diving in shows a lack of judgement to me & there’s no need for it – I’ve just watched it & the issue was Cech making an error of judgement. There was no need for him to come out in the way he did. he committed himself way too early & the attacker knew that all he had to do was knock it past as he did & Cech was gonna catch him.
You can argue that the Hull guy could have got out of the way of the challenge but there doesn’t have to be contact for it to be a foul & if leaping out of the way of Cech’s challenge would have made it easier for an Arsenal player to get back & challenge or caused the Hull guy to lose his balance then it would still have been a penalty.Not sure why the ref didn’t give it initially – all I can think is that he thought that Cech was the player who’d knocked the ball sideways & the linesman alerted him over the mic that he hadn’t
Watching Hull v Arsenal on MOTD tonight and am curious if anybody else thinks cheating is doing away with good goalies.The incident I’m referring to is when Czech went to save at the feet of a Hull City player (can’t remember his name) who knocked it almost sideways, and then went down, as his trailing feet hit Czech. Now I know there was “contact”, but for me it was never a pen.. Czech kept himself low, and didn’t initiate the contact. But still the ref gave it. The Hull player would never have scored from the position where he kicked the ball too.
Keepers need to be brave but decisions like this could well do away GOOD keepers.
Sorry, but it’s a foul all day long. Imagine anywhere else on the pitch where a player knocks the ball past an opponent who then comes flying in late. People would be screaming for a foul
Keepers should be no different – stay on your feet & give the opposition player something to think about rather than come haring out & commit to a challenge where you’ve got no chance of getting the ballA reet dick but one of the finest midfielders ever for Latics.
Well apparently according to the BBC report he’s a former Hull and Fulham player. He played 23 times for Hull and 39 for Fulham …………..
He made 145 appearances for Latics and 66 for Peterborough.
The media really piss me off. :angry:[/quote]
Probably just as well that you don’t read Leatherhead’s press release then, coz they list every club he ever played for bar 1 – I’ll let you hazard a guess as to which club they’ve omitted!! :blink: :blink: :blink:
How many times has Caldwell seen any of the replacements training prior to arriving but all are deemed a favoured choice over Sam.And that’s the point. Caldwell saw Morsy 5/6 days a week from January-May playing & training and then again in training & pre-season games from mid-June onwards.
Having done so, he decided that he couldn’t do the job that he needed him to do & so told him that it was best if the club moved him on.As for the comment that he’d seen the replacements less – well of course he has. Any manager who brings a player in is the same. If they don’t make the signing on that basis alone then no manager would ever bring in new players.
Like I said, time will tell whether Caldwell has made the correct decision but out of all of us he knows the player best
According to Wigan Today this morning Sam was told he was surplus to requirements after one training session.
If that is true it is nothing short of disgusting as he was one of the pivitol players to help us to promotion last season. Not even given a chance.
Good luck Sam.If you listen to the interview, the emphasis that he puts on the word “one” makes it sound like his is referring to one as in “a” training session & not one as in the “first” training session.
Time will tell whether Caldwell is right or wrong, but I wouldn’t describe him as pivotal last season at all. he played his part granted but he played some, he didn’t others, was good in some & not in others
Caldwell has seen things n training whether that be attitude or ability that has convinced him to jettison Morsy & for the moment I guess he would know more about that attitude & ability than any of usI remember Latics playing Fulham at Springfield Park in the Deehan 96/97 title winning season.
It finished 1-1 but there was snow on the pitch & I’m pretty certain they used an orange ballIn an ideal world, this would happen, but as has been demonstrated with cup games that cost £10 or £15, folk just wont pay to watch something that they can do without.
This is not a swipe at WAFC, but a fact – the folk of Wigan do not have much disposable income, and even if the games were £10, then I doubt many would be tempted (as borne out by cup attendances). For many, watching live sport is not an option any more.
Your ST prices were fantastic value, and the club should be commended for providing such fantastic value. £179 for an adult and a kid to watch 23 games is a great price, yet despite this, less than half the stadium is filled with ST holders.
By charging £20 and £25 for the casual fan, it means the club can then charge visiting supporters that figure. Around 20% of the average attendance this season will be visiting supporters, and if they can be charged £25, it will help keep your ST prices lower. Away fans will not begrudge paying £25 or even £30 at the DW when the likes of Sheff Wed fleece them for £42.
Hang on a moment, i think i might need to make an appointment with the Dr here. But, i am going to agree with you on this one mutty. The only difference i would make is charge the away supporters £25, but charge home fans £15 – £20.[/quote]
As much as I think the guy’s a reet plant pot I remember listening to a phone in on talksport years ago with the then Palace chairman, Simon Jordan.
Anyway, as you’d expect, quite a few Palace fans phoned in & this was back in the days (2007ish) when they weren’t much cop, were flirting with administration on & off & they’re crowds weren’t the best.
One of the Palace fans suggested to him what one of the posters has done on here i.e. dropping prices across the board to encourage more fans to turn up on matchdays with the argument that any loss in money charged per person would be offset by more through the turnstiles who in turn would spend more once inside.
Simon Jordan replied that they’d tried it on numerous occasions & it didn’t work – that whilst you may get a few more in it doesn’t cover the lower admission charge & the type who do turn up aren’t the type that go spending loads at the bar once they’re inside.
Like Mutty has said, Jordan said that what they try to do was price the games at a level that doesn’t put loyal home fans off but which allows them to take advantage of the increased loyalty of the away fans without putting them off too.
i suspect that Latics have tried to entice people with the very low ST prices so as to be able to guarantee an known income level even if the season is a disaster & we wind up facing relegation, whilst also not being too high to put off more casual supporters if the season is a success. And like Mutty says being able to take advantage of the higher away followings in this division – didn’t Jonathan Jackson say last season that away followings had dropped by 75% from Championship levels?? For Latics that is a hell of a lot of moneyLast time i can recall a friendly with UTD was at Springfield Park in the early 90s & that team was full of academy player nobody had heard of…!I went to that. United announced they were entering the Lancs Manx cup & then on the date they were playing Latics arranged a friendly at Old Trafford against Benfica so barely anyone was at Springfield Park.
If I remember rightly though there were a good few first teamers in the United side.
From memory I’m sure that Paul Ince, Lee Sharpe, Danny Wallace + some others were thereNeither United or Liverpool will be playing anyone who has played any part in the Euros which, without having looked it up, I would imagine would be quite a chunk of their squads.
So yes, I’d imagine that both managers will use the game to run the rule over players they don’t know a great deal about &/or who they’re coaching staff think may be able to make the step up from development squad to 1st team squadDo you not think the laziness is due to Coyle’s lack of fitness training ?To be fair to Coyle, it was under him that Powell played his best stuff.
If I remember rightly, pretty soon after Rosler arrived it was announced that he had been playing with an injury & was to be rested to let him recover from it.
By the time he regained fitness Latics were on a roll & he didn’t get his starting place back. That’s for me when the attitude problems seemed to rear their head & the level of his performances dropped.
