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To put whether he’s good enough for Lge1, in 20 starts & 6 sub appearances for Oldham this season he scored the sum total of zero goals
Was he playing the lone-striker role? :dry:[/quote]
3-4-1-2 in a lot of his games.
Not an appropriate question in view of the reason why he’s playing on Friday. It’s great that Bobby and all the ex players are giving up their time for such a worthwhile cause. Let’s leave it at that shall we.
I think SW makes a valid point though![/quote]
I think JR has just given me his answer!Manchester City , a friends just renewed for £299 that should make ours £99 seems a good price to me.£2 per match? They should be chucking in a free pie as well the robbing gets.
‘Oi Sharpe. Why aren’t we going for a decent manager or signing any players in the summer?’
Paul Cook now 5-4 fav but would he leave PompeyHe may want to come back to the North West.
He’s done well at both Chesterfield and Portsmouth and would be a good appointment in my opinion.
Don’t know how true it is though as there’s a different favourite every other day.
That shortlist is a joke. And Karl Robinson has gone to Charlton.
Sorry Prat69, how about this as a shortlist
Nigel Pearson – available
Jose Mourinho
Antonio Conte
Luis Enrique – available
Roberto Mancini
Pep GuardiolaCant afford any and none would come but why should that bother us[/quote]
Why can’t we afford Nigel Pearson? The others in your list are just a pathetic attempt to win your point. But you don’t. May as well have added Zidane and Simeone.
But how do we know Pearson wouldn’t fancy it? I bet people said the same about Chris Hughton, and he actually applied for the job when we gave it to Mackay. Feckin idiots.
If not that Nigel, then Nigel Adkins. Available. Keith Hill went to Barnsley and it didn’t work.
I know, John Coleman at Accrington. Give him a stab at it….lol[/quote]
Nobody’s saying we can’t afford Pearson. But I don’t think Pearson would be interested as he’d have no money to spend – which is why he left Hull.Plus he’s fallen out with the Derby owner, and two different Leicester owners. Doubt Sharpe will have him at the top of his wish list.
Would never call the club shyte but with whats going on at present is fekin shyte beyond belief not club but those in controlWhat’s shite?
The club is self sufficient and is run by Wiganers – who are also genuine fans and have the cubs best interests at heart.
We’ve made some bad managerial appointments? So has every club.
Look what’s happening over on the other side of the M61:
I much prefer being in our situation than in theirs.
I’d rather have watched Jewell’s team than Joyce’s all day long.
But I preferred Martinez’s style of play to Jewell’s. Yes it could be boring at times, but when t clicked, it was fantastic to watch.
That’s my personal preference though.
This week will always be a big week in our history. Here is something to cheer you up after yesterday.
Ah back in the day when the football was fantastic and when strikers were just that. Before we were brainwashed by foreign formations and tactics. That was some side we had back then. Happy memories indeed.[/quote]
Bloody foreigners coming over here, winning stuff with their formations and tactics!! ;)
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.
I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.[/quote]
JJ has said in the past the money is there for a manager’s salary – and they’ll pay for the right candidate.
The problem we’ve got is attracting those managers when they see the low crowds, club’s modest resources and what little they’ll have to spend on new signings.
As Egg said, who knows what and how much we paid for any of those loan players?
I’ll guarantee we’ve haven’t paid much toward the salaries of them as they have been sent to us to get experience or to get fit, hence why there’s quite possibly clauses in their contracts to ensure they get as much playing time as possible.
Whatever the actual cost was of getting those players in by Joyce, it would have easily been covered by the money we got for Wildschut.
And, yes the club has wasted money. But that’s down to the manager. He’s the football man, and he tells JJ and Sharpe who he wants.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.
It’s definitely somebody on your list of “oh No’s”
If it’s Stubbs then I despair. I really do.
When will they learn? Are the admin of our club actually THICK? It just reeks of another Coyle…ex Bolton man again. Same as Joyce as well. I hoped that for once, the club would surprise me and prove me wrong, but if they actually do this…and they’ve just actively and openly DENIED it, then can we ever trust them ever again?[/quote]
No, they’re not thick. Bar Sharpe, the club’s directors and senior admin staff are all experienced and very well educated.But who you see as the ideal candidate may not be the best candidate in their eyes-as there are financial constraints and they can only take into account managers who live in the North West or who are willing to move here.
And don’t forget, they have to work with this person on a day-to-day basis. So if they are a right w@nker who’s likely to make their life hell, they’ll not be keen on giving them the job.[/quote]
In other words, another ‘Yes Man’ then.
Ffs…..[/quote]
What do you mean by a “Yes Man” and what exactly is he going to be saying yes to?[/quote]
You know fine and we’ll what I mean….I. mean us employing another clueless gobshite who does another shite job and had us the laughing stock. Again.
Someone who will pander to the clubs penny pinching ways. Someone without any backbone who will.not stand up.and say “I need more money” etc.
If you lot are satisfied to have another knobhead like that in charge….more fool you.[/quote]
That’s exactly what Bruce said, and when he didn’t get it, he left.And that’s the point: there isn’t any more money to give – so I’m not sure what you’re hoping for.
Most if not all suitable managers will be fully aware of what the constraints are at Wigan, and that will put a lot of potential applicants off.
And until Sheikh Al Sithi or whoever suddenly declares a life long desire to buy the club and sit with ten thousand booing and moaning fans, that’s the way it is – like it or not.
Look at my Avatar;What game was that photo from ?
What formation did we play that day ( that season, in fact )?
How many strikers did we have on the pitch that day ?
In a must not lose game, did we got for it or take the softly, softly cautious approach ?That season, we went home with sore throats and exhausted after thrilling games !
Everyone played 442 in those days, until they started getting regularly beaten by teams who packed the midfield.
That’s why I asked the question egg coz I knew the players would be the ones to take the blame. Some simply refuse to admit that the system is shite . The players are told how they are to be set up and loss of form is expected if they don’t know how to play the system properly that’s down to bad coaching.The system isn’t shite.
Of the top ten teams in the Championship, eight of them play with one striker (the two that don’t are Sheff Wed and Brighton). And it’s exactly the same for the Premier League (Leicester don’t and Southampton are 50/50)
It worked well for us last year.
The problem is the squad that Joyce brought in, and his coaching – not the fact we play with one striker.
