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It’s definitely somebody on your list of “oh No’s”
If it’s Stubbs then I despair. I really do.
When will they learn? Are the admin of our club actually THICK? It just reeks of another Coyle…ex Bolton man again. Same as Joyce as well. I hoped that for once, the club would surprise me and prove me wrong, but if they actually do this…and they’ve just actively and openly DENIED it, then can we ever trust them ever again?[/quote]
No, they’re not thick. Bar Sharpe, the club’s directors and senior admin staff are all experienced and very well educated.But who you see as the ideal candidate may not be the best candidate in their eyes-as there are financial constraints and they can only take into account managers who live in the North West or who are willing to move here.
And don’t forget, they have to work with this person on a day-to-day basis. So if they are a right w@nker who’s likely to make their life hell, they’ll not be keen on giving them the job.
The Leeds fans in the home end had purchased a hospitality option that was on sale to the Leeds fans.
It was a case of the club making hay while the sun shines, and as we can’t attract enough fans, why not?
Standing here now on the concourse with a pint reflecting on this lorry crash of a season there is one positive today….
It’s a nice day
Me too, just noticed the loan signings in again, proves one thing about clauses in contracts doesn’t it?[/quote]
Really disappointed with the inclusion of the loan players today, not to mention the one up front in this winner takes all friendly.[/quote]
Yep, because teams who play 442 never lose and always play exciting football…..There is only one man to take the helm. Only one man could possibly begin to sort out the HUGE mess that has been left now. Wigan Athletic can’t buy their way up next season so the players that are there and will be coming in need motivation. A man who isn’t afraid of what people think or try and dictate to him. That man is Roy Keane. There shouldn’t even be any other name in the frame. If The Latics want to survive then Keane needs appointing and given longevity.
You’ve a good point there Yosser…Roy Keane would be an excellent choice. We can but hope.
Back to reality, we’ve more chance of getting his namesake Steve, whose tactical prowess makes Yootha Joyce look like Bill Shankly.[/quote]
After reading his autobiography, he doesn’t seem too bothered about what league he is in as long as he is challenged. There is no bigger challenge around at the moment in terms of potential, stadium and facilities etc its all there if somebody can get them back up. A couple of things he alludes to in his book are how he has turned down big money moves in terms of playing and management because of 1. The challenge wasn’t enough and 2. He couldn’t uproot his family from Manchester so when he was in the Sunderland job he struggled to adapt because he was so far away from home and his family. He wasn’t concerned about his salary but was more interested in an incentive bonus. 1m quid for promotion. Thats what drives him on. The challenge to be successful. He is out of club management and could continue in his role with Ireland and he is 20 mins away. I think he would jump at the chance. I very much doubt the club have the balls to make such an appointment though. A born winner.[/quote]
So this is the same Keane who has a caustic personality, who could start an argument in an empty room, who fell out with entire Irish coaching staff, caused all the Sunderland players to celebrate when he resigned as manager, and was an abject failure and eventually sacked as Ipswich manager?Oh, and he once kicked up a fuss and wrote about it in his newspaper column when one of the girls at the DW ticket office didn’t recognise him and wouldn’t sell him a ticket?
Yep. Perfect for the job!
I won’t be there for a dead rubber of a game. If it was 3pm on a Saturday I would but I only go for a few pre match pints now anyway and so the little un can support his local team. Seen it all, been Europe won the FA Cup etc I wouldn’t go half as much if it weren’t for him. Better football at Ashton Athletic.If you are one of the ones berating others for not going, I presume you’ll be at every pre-season friendly, cos that’s all this is.
I’m not having a go at Phil for staying away on Sunday, as it’s each to their own.
What I’m saying is that someone who chooses not to go for a proportion of the season because they are not being entertained is not what I’d class as a supporter – more a fan, spectator, customer or whatever.
So saying you are supporting a club by buying a season ticket but then not attending the games because the team’s performances are poor is not my definition of support.
Those who go when times are good or bad, thrown money into a bucket, attend fans’ forums etc – are what I’d class as supporters.
And we have lot of fans, but very few supporters.
I’d class myself as a supporter, but nowhere near the level of some of the those who post on here.
If I can go to a game, I’ll go. But I have other commitments that sometimes get in the way.
And for the record I’m not there on Sunday because my eldest lad has a cricket match.
Was half way to arranging something for next Sunday when I remembered.
Yes that’s partially due to my age, but just proves how much I wish this season was now over altogether.
Very poor home turn out on Sunday I reckon, a sign of things to come :ohmy:
There shouldn’t be too much of a fall off of the home support on Sunday, it has been dire all season and most have still turned up, apart from filmoss and VAT of course.
Get yourselves down there, stand up and be proud to be a Latic, give the lads a clap, they have tried, but were not good enough, it happens.
It is still our club, and the best club in the world to follow, there’s not many had the journey we have had since 1932. We will be back in August, better and stronger for it.
C’mon Latics!!![/quote]
All 4 of us stopped going, not just me! We all bought season tickets so we financially supported the club but the club didn’t repay us in anyway whatsoever and by ‘repay’ I mean give us any value for our money because it isn’t all about blind faith supporting for us. The club has been mismanaged and the effect has brought about yet another relegation. It’s alright spouting off about ‘Smashing’ League One with parachute payments and a squad that was actually good enough to compete in The Championship but to stand back and let that squad get dismantled and appear completely bereft of any ideas of how to move the club forward is akin to some idiots running a school tuck shop if you ask me! The football has been negative, boring and to be quite frank utterly shite in my view and so after the Forest game I decided that it wasn’t going to get any better soon, well certainly not this season and so I chose to do something else with my spare time, my prerogative ya see! I haven’t forgot about the game on Sunday, it’s just that I have better things to do with my time because if the club can’t be arsed then neither can I![/quote]
What you’re doing Phil is not supporting the club. You’re paying to be entertained.You’d never say you were supporting a cinema or a theatre. You only go there to be entertained by what they’re showing. Likewise you with the football.
Supporting the club is to give them your money no matter how bad they are – because they’re your club and you made a decision to support them in whatever they do.
You might call it ‘blind faith’ but that’s what the hard-core fanbase of most clubs is like, and it’s why clubs like Portsmouth were on the bones of their arse playing in League Two but still managed to attract twenty thousand on match days.
Is that what we are looking forward to ?, playing low level sides in pre-season friendlies with a disjointed team and managerless.I personally think we should be concentrating getting a manager within days of the Leeds game, followed by a major clearout before we start playing friendlies with a set side not bringing 15 players at the end of August.
I’ve a feeling it won’t workout like that, it will be more a case of us still putting our house in order 2-3 games into the season with about 6-8 new signings been made on deadline day.
Stability !!!! we need stability asap manager and players alike. Why the f##k do we need to keep clearing out ?. Look at our squad ?, most managers in Div1 would belt on off if they had our squad.‘I personally think we should be concentrating getting a manager within days of the Leeds game, followed by a major clearout before we start playing friendlies with a set side not bringing 15 players at the end of August.
Stability !!!! we need stability asap manager and players alike. Why the f##k do we need to keep clearing out ?.’
Make your mind up!
Occasionally very occasionally the hyped up greed league, no European leagues and no European Champions or Europa League games, some FA Cup or League Cup highlights or bits of live cup games. Couldn’t sit through 90 minutes of other clubs live games.Watch England competition games but not their friendlies.
If that means I know F all about football or tactics or formations or the game, so be it.
One love WAFC, don’t give a shit really about other clubs or matches.
If they all play such amazing stuff with these modern tactics why as it not worked for us and why have we been so drab for the last eight years then?Wasn’t questioning your knowledge of football.
What I was getting at is, if you watch a lot of football these days you’ll see how one striker is the norm and teams playing with one striker quite often play exciting football.
We saw glimpses of it under Martinez and Rosler, but most of our failing have been down to poor managerial choices – in my opinion.
One up top doesn’t have to be negative especially with 3 attacking midfielders behind but that debates been flogged to death on here.
The formation should be flexible and that team could easily change to the good old 442
Further more, ‘one up top’ is the norm these days – with all but 3 of the Premier League teams playing it, and over half the Championship teams.
So Sharpe will have to look far and wide* if he is to find a manager who our grumbling masses deem good enough for the club, and who favours a rigid 4-4-2 formation.
(*he won’t)[/quote]
But we are not in the Premier league any more nor the Championship probably. So why not use the quality players (as long as they stay) to their full potential. Negative play has got us relegated this season so why would we continue with it in div 1.[/quote]
Not too sure anymore this 1/0 up top has grown on me. There has been some real exhibition football again this season just like there was two years ago with MAF dazzling us. Bring back Jason Scotland next year and he can show us how to play this exhibition stuff at its best.[/quote]
Serious question: do you watch any other football apart from Wigan matches?
Ally McCoist is looking for a new club.
Rangers are probably a similar size outfit to us and he didn’t do too bad bringing them up the leagues in Scotland.McCoist isn’t a good manager.
Rangers sailed up the leagues because they had SPL players playing in semi-pro leagues. He stalled when they got to the Championship.
One up top doesn’t have to be negative especially with 3 attacking midfielders behind but that debates been flogged to death on here.The formation should be flexible and that team could easily change to the good old 442
Further more, ‘one up top’ is the norm these days – with all but 3 of the Premier League teams playing it, and over half the Championship teams.
So Sharpe will have to look far and wide* if he is to find a manager who our grumbling masses deem good enough for the club, and who favours a rigid 4-4-2 formation.
(*he won’t)
i think there will be a mass exodus end of season be it financially due to wages or not wanting division one football
powell bogle burn and so on think we will see the same old routine new players in but at the end of their career or players of a poorer standard replacing the rubbish we all ready have endured this season
futures not looking good is itBurn will probably go. He’s too good for League One.
I doubt Bogle’s going anywhere though. He’s not exactly been the saviour everyone was tipping him to be
A Grimsby fan at work predicted he’d struggle at a higher level and was injury prone. And lo and behold…
Powell’s a strange one, because even though is has obvious ability, by all accounts he’s got no ambition and doesn’t want to leave the North West. So if nobody is willing to shell out for him and his dodgy medical history, we might end up keeping him.
If we do, I think he could be devastating in League One.
Does anyone this would be a good set up for next season if we keep them all.m
1-gilks
2-Daniels
3-Warnock
4-Morgan/Buxton
5-burn
6-morsy
7-power
8-colclough/Gilbey
9-Jacobs
10-Grigg
11-bogleWarnock, Power and Jacobs can be omitted from that line up. Replace them with Reece James, Nick Powell and Alex Gilbey and you are not far off a decent team. Incidentally, that team would easily have stayed up this season.[/quote]
Shows how opinions differ.I also think McDOnald has been one of our best players this season. Looks a class above most of our other midfielders, and wins a lot of ball back.
But on the flip-side, I don’t rate Reece James. He looks to either cut inside himself or play the ball inside too much for my liking. Rarely looks to beat the man on the outside – which, if you’re not playing without out-and-out wingers, is what you want your full backs to do.
We played much better last season when Warnock replaced him.
It wasn’t a matter of going for the cheap option because both he and Hughton were out of work at the time.
I imagine one wanted higher wages than the other.[/quote]
Probably so, but at the time I very much Hughton would have turned down the job based on what money was being offered.It wasn’t a matter of going for the cheap option because both he and Hughton were out of work at the time.
I imagine one wanted higher wages than the other.[/quote]
Hughton had been unfairly sacked by Newcastle despite gaining them promotion from The Championship and seemingly doing well in the Prem. Had then done relatively well at Birmingham, almost guiding them out of The Championship. Had decided to take the Norwich job for Prem football but for some reason that just didn’t work. He was also offered assistant manager jobs at various Prem clubs but declined.
Mackay whilst doing well at Cardiff had an FA investigation for being racist, sexist and homophobic hanging over his head and was also being questioned about his financial activities with Iain Moody over agent fees and signings whilst at Cardiff. The Wigan fans deeply opposed the signing of Mackay but it went ahead anyway! I can’t help thinking that Hughton wanted a bigger wage than Mackay and rightfully so. This was probably the point where the club started to go tits up! My Gran used to say “If you buy cheap, you buy twice” She was right![/quote]
I know all that, but what I’m saying is there were individuals within the club who had played with or been managed by Mackay at other clubs who testified for Mackay being a good choice of manager.So, I very much doubt it was a case of Hughton pricing himself out, and more a case of teammates of Mackay putting in a good word for him.
