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I didnt watch it but i bet the foul count had something to do with the worst midfielder we have had for the last 5 years.
Step forward Hendry Thomas
to be fair though teabag 1,3 and 4 happen every week and not so predictable, We knew about 2 as they announced that fulham had sold around 1,500 anyway and 5 was just a pedantic comment anyroad, so i will give top marks for an obvious prediction, Tell me the lottery numbers for tonight and i will change my mind. :D :D :D
Ok in reply to griff all i can say is :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Standish i read and read what you say repeatedly about our club and Whelan and finances e.t.c and you are 110% correct, Iv’e never disagreed with you on that. We need someone who is prepared to not expect every soul in Wigan not to bow down to their knees and tell the fans they don’t deserve a football team. Maybe a bit hypocritical of me i know as i don’t like going any more and he is referring to the likes of me. Im 25 and don’t profess to having been around and seen it, done it e.t.c but have been watching football and following Latics for as long as i can remember so i would at least consider myself to have a good knowledge of it all after about 20 years of it. I love football and always have but mainly now more so the lower league standard.
Now with the way football is now and the way money controls it now i understand that clubs have to do what they can to carry on, But we are a premiership club not a Hereford United or a Barnet e.t.c. If we were never going to be able to compete in this league then why bother getting here. The fans i don’t believe get anything out of it, Im pretty sure 90% don’t enjoy it. Who wants to go to watch their club hoping for 17th every year. Blackpool don’t, Stoke don’t, Fulham don’t, Get my drift. They have REAL ambition, Not the fabricated ambition that Whelan talks about, What he really means is how much money he can make. Another lie to the fans, Going for Europe next season blah blah blah. There must be hundreds of millionaires in Wigan alone who would love the chance to change things a bit. Maybe not at this level but sustainability and ambition have been done now. How much money do they need exactly to sustain themselves. Where has all the money gone that we have earned since we got to the prem. None of it has been re-invested in the club, Not so much as an academy which by now would have been flourishing a lot more than crack pot panic buys. Dave Whelan has always been good atone thing, Making money out of business transactions. He bought us in div 3 and said they will get to the prem, Another business opportunity for him, Spend a few million and make a mint at the end of it. If he was really bothered about us being here then why not make a few good loan signings at least to try and keep us here then start all the seasonal crap about building again next season. Cost him about 2to 3m in wages to really bolster this team up and push out of where we lie now.He could let Figeuroa go and spend his transfer fee on 4 or 5 loans.
He can spout about how we don’t deserve a club all he wants but i never complained when i stood on Springy Park and got a plum tie in the cup. That was real excitement. He thinks we all owe him something and in some ways we do but i would say that the town has already shown it’s gratitude for him. You can’t sell your best players every year and expect people to just come back for the fun of it, You just can’t do it. Not when you replace them with crap and personally talk them up for a transfer. If a big team came in for them i would sell. Thanks Dave that makes me really want to keep turning up that does. Unprofessional. Expect everyone to turn up in December and January and he goes to Barbados every year when he is supposed to be running a club. Unprofessional. No other chairman in the land does that.
To sum up Standish, We need to get somebody involved who wants the club to do well and is honest about the goings on with the club. Doesn’t have to be multi-rich, Just committed and willing enough to be truthful about where the money goes every year. The invisible warchest, another lie. Jewells firs season, he can have all the promotion money and he will double it. Tosh. I will take the players to Barbados for a holiday if we get promoted. Tosh. He had them training schools out there. Bumming the Barbadian government giving them something for free for future hospitality. We do not need to be another Cardiff e.t.c, Just a normal running, functional club like Barnsley, Bristol City, Swansea. They aren’t premiership clubs i know, But neither are we.
Oh no no no, draw and we are gone defo. I think we are gone anyway, all those stupid results earlier in the season are going to come back and do us. That and the fact the teams around us have signed or are being linked with some hefty names we have a chairman who says if he wants someone he will have to sell. So where does that leave us, Sell Zog, Rodders or (and) Figs and who the hell do you bring in next. Boselli goes out on loan and i presume Genoa are paying his wages so that leaves a huge 1 loan signing. My friends the relegation is foregone. Im plumping for bottom of the league, regardless of our home results from now till the end. I cant wait for the championship. i will be first in the queue for a season ticket. just hope Whelan and Martinez go in the summer. Love what Dave has done but time for someone who isnt obsessed with selling assets every year then complains when people don’t give him their hard earned money to get in and watch a guaranteed boring match from the home side. Taking a bingo gamble for 1 win in 5home games isnt value for money when the players dont try, And Martinez has just lost the plot. He will end up at Sheff Wed or somewhere similar.
The F.A should ban the use of agents in our country. Imagine how un-hyped transfer rumours would be without an agent pushing potential transfers through. Imagine the luxury of a club being able to reject a bid for a player without the player ever getting wind of it. Ah if only
Yosser, although the side you have chosen is good, it’s not likely to happen. After January I would like our team to look like this:GK: Al Habsi (Made permanent, I think it will happen. Bolton want to sign Wheater and our deal could help them raise funds.)
RB: Boyce
CB: Alcaraz
CB: Woodgate (Loan signing for the remainder of the season)
LB: Figeuroa
DM:Thomas
CM: McCarthy
RM: N’Zogbia
LM: Moses
AM: Cleverley
ST: RodallegaAs for Caicedo, he is average at best, he’s a big lad but not the kind of player I would want us to sign. I think we should look to sign a couple of the Espanyol team who we have been linked with. Callejon is a good player, He can play as a striker or just off the front man.
I dunno, the only maybe’s there would be Richards and Bellamy, Wages e.t.c. Possibly Obertan depending on who United sign. A lot depends on how Moses recovers also. And that isnt for January thats if we stayed up. I think it would be a decent team, and british
I shouted this one last season, he would be ideal in a 4-4-2 however that won’t materialise, Jo is another one, his value is only 3m and has played the last 2 for the shop window. Here is a list of players i would want if we stayed up, Well a list of players i would like to go for if i was the chosen one –
GK – sign Al Habsi permanently and Alex Smithies
LB – Kyle Walker or Daniel Fox
RB – Micah Richards
CB – Woodgate and (or) Kilgannon
Mids – Andros Townsend (loan), Michael Johnson, Gabriel Obertan (loan) maybe permanent.
Strikers – Caicedo or Jo realistically Caicedo, Bellamy.so the team would look something like
———————–Al-Habsi—————————–
—-Richards—–Woodgate—–Alcaraz——-Walker—-
—-Obertan——Johnson——-Diame——Townsend—
—————–Caicedo——-Bellamy——————–
Caldwell aint good enough for any formation. I gave a big sigh when we signed him because it was a rash signing in my eyes, I think every fan can just about work out a bad signing before they have kicked a ball, a la, Kilbane, Hall Scotland e.t.c. The formation is fine, The lack of decent signings and playing players out of position is the problem.
We very rarely win under Martinez, in fact we average one league win per month this season, he is the man.Once again the idiots on here, Bobby, Griff, Standish stalker all trying to defend the worst manager we have ever had.
Wake up idiots, he is ruining the club, he has no idea, and lost the dressing room last season.
Who will sign for the no mark manager when they can see how we play. No passion, no pride, no plan B, no idea.
Martinez was also on the radio today saying how we were mentally exhausted. The only mental thing around the training ground is him.
He needs to go for the good of our club.
Im by no way a Martinez fan, (as a manager) and i concur that he shouldnt be here but i must admit griff, standish e.t.c do show a great deal of solidarity when it comes to him and i understand why they back him. Until he has gone its the best thing to do. Although i just cant do it myself
