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You lot crack me up, you really do
You’re just like Sky – football didn’t exist before 1990
Nah we are just not all old feckers ;) ;) i am 30 and i first went in 93 so you have to be at least 35-40 but i would say about 45.
I think one poster did mmention his age group and how long he had been going.
So who is in your top 3?Mine (from what i remember) and taking into account the levels of football at the time etc would be :- in descending order (and consistently playing, not just a few games = a dog shit player) but i need 4
4. Peter Kennedy
3. Michael O’Neil
2. Brian McLaughlin
1. Alan McLoughlinSlightly short sighted by the club i feel. Yes i accept that a pay as you play deal would be fair at his age with his best years certainly behind him but i feel he has warranted more from the club at the same time. I am pretty sure an advisory role or administrative role could have been offered to him.
He might get a 1 year contract at the likes of MK Dons but where does he go after that?
Again this choice was probably due to terms and conditions on offer.
You seem to know an awful lot about it.
Middlesbro v. Wigan
– better promotion prospects (proven)
– bigger club (hardly questionable)
– bigger crowds (proven)
– better wages (most probably)Looks like the lad made the right call to me.[/quote]
This
Plus when Adomah signed for Boro we had just been relegated and appointed Owen Coyle. Boro had just appointed multiple trophy winner Aitor Karanka.
The difference in ambition was there for all to see
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
Egg came up with a name of two players (cant remember their names) – one who’d played once in a league cup tie and once in an end-of season game about 8 years ago, but this one is the first Wiganer to have scored for his home town club for many many years.Pleasing to see a local lad playing for his local club. I hope he has many more days like yesterday.
I remember Andy Morris scoring in a cup game about 13 years ago. Small, quick left winger but with not much end product. However i think it was an auto windscreens shields match. If i remember rightly he scored in extra time to win it. Might have been Blackpool
Paul Mitchell
Andy MorrisOnly ever 5 winners of it since it started in 1992 ,23 years ago!
Chelsea,Man utd,Man City ,Blackburn and ArsenalIn the 23 years prior to 1992 we had 7 different champions Leeds,Arsenal,Liverpool,Everton,Aston Villa,Nottingham Forest, Derby County .
Not many more I grant you but check out some of the unfashionable names like Forest and Derby and also remember Forest won it straight after a promotion in 1977-78 season.
it is overrated for sure but interesting especially when a struggling club like Burnley turns over a team like City and it would be nice to see little clubs like Bournemouth and Brentford get up there next season although the TV bosses would hardly relish paying 10 million a game to screen those two would they?I postd about this earlier.
Premier League is exactly the same as all major leagues in terms of the low number of winners:
England 5
Germany 6
Spain 5
Netherlands 5
Italy 5
Portugal 4
Scotland 2[/quote]Is the Premier League overrated?
Since its inception? No
Currently? It depends who you areAn armchair fan who pays his subscription continues to do so, because they believe they are getting value for money. Games have incident, excitement, controversy and at the beginning of the season there are several team who could win the League.
A fan of a promoted club gets caught up in the excitement but after surviving for a few seasons apathy sets in. The exciting moments become few and far between.
Results in the Champions League haven’t been great recently, but this goes in cycles.
For what it is worth, I think that the Premier League is still the best overall.
Bundesliga wishes they have the global marketing power of the Premier League and is trying to catch up.
However, while the stadium experience is better, Bayern are consistently winning the league with weeks to spare and are buying all the best players from their nearest rivals.[/quote]Quite surprised nobody has commented on your post doglatic because that is a very good analogy
Cockney Latic favourite trait :- If we can compare and relate Latics to the early 90’s then the current predicament becomes acceptable.
Fine. Well do us all a favour and fuck off and watch a spectacle that’s more pleasing to ya then. ‘To be honest I wanted to go to see how bad they really were and they didn’t disappoint’. Make your mind up. Yesterday your mate dragged you out out on a freebie when you wanted to watch ITV. What did you expect? Fuckin champagne football from the worst performing team in our history? What kind of prick comes on here trying to piss everyone off telling us how bad we are? We all fuckin know how bad we are. FFS. Some of us go every week not just when we get a free ticket off a mate.There is a good Rugby match on tonight
I won’t hide behind anything big lad, don’t you worry about that. What i stated was what i saw, regardless of how many times i have been. That is what i saw. If you don’t like it, That is just tough effing titty then isn’t it. To be honest, i wanted to go and see how bad they really were and they didn’t disappoint.
And Griff, If i would have seen you, I would have probably done the same ;) You were probably pretty much sat on top of me, Where i was, there were still the same faces, still the same 2 stupid women from when i was a west stand regular about 10 years ago howling out ridiculous un-funny things at opposition players.
As predictable as ever Einstein!A more positive account would have stated that despite the woeful performances served up recently the crowd have very rarely been negative and continue to get behind the team in adversity, the referee tonight was pretty awful missing a hatful of fouls against our players, for his first game in months Bongs debut was a pleasing one where he seldom put a foot wrong whilst we scored two disallowed goals in a contest where we deserved at the very least a point. Let’s hope you dont return anytime soon spouting negative drivel. It’s hard enough at the minute without superfans like you popping up!
You big tart. I wasn’t being funny or condescending, That was my genuine take on it. But you’re right, i won’t be returning with my negative drivel. I don’t want to halt all the positivity that is floating around. Fucking big woman, stop trying to impress the do-gooders.
Ref was fair, I heard not a hint of any fans behind the team from where i was sat or by indeed the booing from 3 stands at half and full time. 2 disallowed goals that were offside, that’s why they were disallowed, Do you get that?? If i was flagged offside outside the box and rattled it into the top corner afterwards it is still offside, no brownie points. Other than Maguire’s late, late shot, i don’t remember the keeper having a save to make. Of course you are going to bum Bong because thats the only glimmer of hope you have left. Couldn’t take a man on and couldn’t pick out a pass more than 10 yards. World beater.
Im going, I have been given a free ticket, If it was up to me i would stay in and watch Barca v Man City but my mate wants to go.
Can you remember where it is or are you relying on your mate to get you there
Luckily i live in Springfield so i can follow the lights in the sky. I hope they have invested in some decent coffee. The no frills crap i was served with last time gavce me Guinness shits the day after
But that boils down to mismanagement again. We know for a fact that Burnley have refused to dish out those sorts of contracts. Yet they’ve got a fighting chance of winning next year’s telly windfall. I suspect also that Crystal Palace and Hull are paying out smaller wages these days, having been relegated relatively recently.The cost-cutting started when Martinez took over from Bruce: by the time he left I’d be surprised if we had anyone left on over 20K a week, when Heskey, N’Zogbia and others were on much more than that years before.
Now the players have gone, the money’s been squandered, the extra support has been lost, and we still haven’t got the academy off the ground.
Whelan talks a lot about putting the club on a safe financial footing. Looks like he’s just putting us back where he found us.
Nice to see people are starting to see what i have been saying for the last 7 years.
Do not love thy servitude
Im going, I have been given a free ticket, If it was up to me i would stay in and watch Barca v Man City but my mate wants to go.
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